Carlisles ST's? Straight Up, Yes or No?

No, tried them twice and got bit twice.

Michelin XPS is a great LT tire and is ribbed. Good luck ande Happy Camping.

Michelin XPS is a great LT tire and is ribbed. Good luck ande Happy Camping.

The Michelin XPS Rib size LT235/85R16E highway radial tire has a maximum load capacity of 3042# at 80 PSI.

The Vanderbilt LT235/85R16E Power King LT radial highway tire has a maximum load capacity of 3042# at 80 PSI.

The Michelin tire has an all steel casing. The Power King tire has an all Polyester casing.

Somewhere in the manufacturing process, the materials used to build those two tires have been developed to give each a single strength value.

Durability is another subject which has it’s own answers found in the tires building materials.

Can we do a fair comparison on these two like sized tires with equal size and strength values?

FastEagle

RinconVTR wrote:


How about the fact Carlisle RH series being rated to 87mph?

Straight off Carlisle web site just now!

"– Best practice. Do not exceed 60 mph while towing a trailer.
– Most ST trailer tires have a maximum speed rating of 65 mph
-Load carrying capacity decreases as heat and stress generated by
higher speed increases.
– Time and the elements weaken a trailer tire.
– 3 to 5 years is the average life expectancy of a trailer tire,
regardless of mileage.
– It is estimated that in approximately three years, roughly
one-third of a tire's strength is gone"

Like I said, they talk out of both sides of there mouths.

Chris

I have Carlisle 285's load range F - I have over 3000 miles on them, they are wearing well and I would buy them again.

"Also, would someone please show us all ANY tire manufacture recommending LT tires on a trailer. Goodyear leaves the door open, but they do not come out recommending anything."

Well, I can show you the lettering on my Sailun S637 LT tires that say "For Trailer Use Only". Does that count?

Hoppypoppy wrote:
Replacing tires on 30' Cardinal tomorrow. Had decided on Cooper LT's. Having 2nd thoughts and really in a dilemma. Have heard so many horror stories about Carlisle, but also hear they have cleaned up their act. Please don't recommend any other tire as I am confused enough, lol. Thanks ya'll. (my search did not answer my specific question.)

FWIW, I ended up with the newer Carlisle E-rated tires on my FW, which is placarded for D tires. I didn't have time to wait for the Maxxis I really wanted and these were recommended by the Discount Tire that my whole family goes to as the best alternative. The fact that they do NOT have a 65 mph speed rating, says something, IMO. So far, they're working well, though starting to show a bit of weather-checking. I keep them covered and on boards in storage, but the AZ sun is hell on stuff, even in the shade. I run them at 80 psi at all times. FWIW, if you have 16" rims, don't even think about the Carlisles and stick with a good LT. The Coopers should serve you well, if you don't go with something like Ribs, R250 or Commercial TA or the like.

Lyle

Since this forum is for 5th Wheels, I'll limit my response to that type of RV. Since 1996, I've purchased the following 5th wheels, all new. The tires that came on them were:

1996 Jayco Designer 3030RKSS - Goodyear Marathons (don't recall size) - an ST tire

2000 Jayco Designer XL 3610RLTS - Goodyear Wrangler HT - LT235/85R-16 LRE

2004 DRV Mobile Suites 36RE3 - Goodyear G614 RST - LT235/85R-16 LRG

2014.5 DRV Mobile Suites 38RSSA - Goodyear G114 - 215/75R-17.5 LRH

Please note that, of these 4 5th wheels, only 1 came equipped with ST-designated tires - the Goodyear Marathons (which failed, by the way, with a tread separation on 1 tire - >$2K damage to 5th wheel. Goodyear replaced all 4 as the other 3 were showing signs of impending tread separation. The tires were 3 years old at the time of failure/replacement.)

2 came with LT-designated tires from the RV manufacturer.

If you want to run ST tires, fine. Your money, your choice.

Rusty

RustyJC wrote:
The speed limit on rural Interstates and most 4 lane roads in Texas is 75 MPH. The speed limit on the western parts of I-10 and I-20 in West Texas is 80 MPH (the law enables it to be set as high as 85 pending TxDOT studies and approvals). Ambient air temperatures in the summer can be 110 degF.

The speed limit on toll road 130 between San Antonio and Austin is 85 MPH. Wonder what Carlisle thinks about that?????

Rusty

I don't know, neither do you. Why don't you speculate some more?

How about the fact that Marathons are rated for 65-75mph ONLY IF inflated 10psi over the state cold psi rating of the tire?

How about the fact Carlisle RH series being rated to 87mph?

How about the fact Maxxis doesn't provide a speed rating, other than the assumed 65mph max for the general ST tire?


Also, would someone please show us all ANY tire manufacture recommending LT tires on a trailer. Goodyear leaves the door open, but they do not come out recommending anything.

Those who use LT's on their trailer successfully, great. But they are the minority and lucky their tire shop installed them. Some will refuse to mount LT's on trailer wheels.

AND...you better make sure your wheels and valve stems can handle the higher PSI required for many LT tires to reach their load rating.

There are many, many assumptions on here about LT tires on trailers, and they are NOT blow out free. Don't kid yourselves.

Many will believe posts on the internet because they believe what they want to, yet wont believe manufactures written publications with a real name to stand behind. To each their own!