I noticed where the names of Carriage and Cameo are coming back. As a owner of a 2011 Cameo this made me a little sick. Knowing they could probably never get the quality in their units as the original Carriage. The articles don't say but probably a Lippert frame. My goal will be a new Lifestyle, using the old Carriage quality.

kennethwooster wrote:I noticed where the names of Carriage and Cameo are coming back. As a owner of a 2011 Cameo this made me a little sick. Knowing they could probably never get the quality in their units as the original Carriage. The articles don't say but probably a Lippert frame. My goal will be a new Lifestyle, using the old Carriage quality.I know what you mean as a former Carriage owner and now a Lifestyle owner, myself. I seriously doubt that the "new" Carriage is anything like what you and I are used to. The quality of Crossroads seriously deteriorated when a former Carriage guy went there and shortened warranty period, etc..... Crossroads/Thor purchased the Carriage/Cameo names at the Carriage auction. From what I have seen of the units (while very attractive and offering some higher-end options), they appear to be rebadged Rushmore fivers with upgrades. What I have read of the Rushmore line and from posts on the forums, Rushmore quality is lacking. I think its very sage to say that the "new Carriage is nothing like the old. Like most, its built on an I-beam frame. Safe travels, Phillip

They will never be like the true Cameos. In typical Thor fashion, they will try to ride on the unsuspecting buyers lack of knowledge and push the past glory of the name while they cheapen the unit and cut quality.As a former Cameo owner, it makes me sick.Ken

As a past owner of 2 real superb Carriages and still the owner of an excellent Carriage Carrilite, Thor/Crossraods building and using the Carriage/Cameo also sickens me and my wife also. Thor isn't known for Real Carriage type quality nor is Crossroads even remotely. Yes, They have the rights to use the product names as they'd bought them both. A name doesn't make the product good or even acceptable, it's the owner's satisfaction and the product's manufacturing reputation of quality over a long time that does! I/we are in the same camp of Lifestyle (who employ's so many of the original Carriage workers) is being our next high end (Carriage Quality) 5th wheel made with the in house well proven strong stacked tube welded frame and the coack being built the same as Carriage did. Paying over $90,000 for an RV says it darn well must be of very high quality materials, engineering, and build and no excuses or cut corners period. Thor/Crossraods will have a lot of proving to do and have a lot of very happy owners satisfied before we'd ever entertain a thought of giving them a slight consideration. Maybe 10 years will be a min! Actually, I/we'd much rather have a Jayco Eagle than any Thor RV I've seen so far. Even Jayco has a 2 year warranty they honor rather than a one year and does so at about 1/2 the purchase price of their RV's of the same size. Jayco built their reputation and have maintained it for getting close to 50 years now. Started in 1968 and that was many decades before Thor or Crossroads was as much as a pipe dream or thought.

Had a dealer for the LifeStyle fifth wheels tell me that the previous owner of now defunct Alfa fifth wheels went to Lifestyle and asked for them to use that name on their newest line of fivers, the Alfa Gold's. Guess since he still owned rights to the name he surely could let Lifestyle use it.

I doubt very much if the public will be fooled, especially those who know the RV business. Copies of the original usually are just that... cheap copies. I am the proud owner of one of the last Cameo's that came off the assembly line and love it. When companies spread their products too thin, then quality does suffer.

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Mary1
Explorer
Jan 09, 2019
I haven't been on this forum for years so trying to remember my login and username. Looks like in 2004 I joined but than in 2006 I must of joined again using a different username. How do I omit one?

I just notified the moderator about this
Allworth
Explorer II
Jan 09, 2019
Are you posting under two names?
Broant
Explorer
Jan 09, 2019
Oh my I read your posts in regards to the Carriage products. We had a Cameo and traded it for Royals International by Carriage back in 2011 buying brand new 2010. Owning these two made heads turn especially the Royals. My husband does not want to do away with it, but me on the other hand do. Well at least I thought I did, till you see the difference. I can't do away with it now either. I wanted something more modern inside and maybe a change in floorplans. As of now it will stay with us, unless someday we find somebody that will appreciate it as much as we do. Built great pulls smoothly and great workmanship. Hail to Carriage!!!!
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Jan 08, 2019
memtb wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:

Nothing wrong with a Lippert frame! It’s who specs the frame. Mobile and Elite Suites are Lippert and just fine!

Except for Lippert’s known quality control track record, failed or missing welds, ect. !

Like I said.

Most want light and cheap and that’s what Lippert delivers.

EXTREMELY rare you hear of a Mobile or Elite Suites frame issue.

YA gets whats ya pays for!!!
memtb
Explorer
Jan 08, 2019
Cummins12V98 wrote:
kennethwooster wrote:
I noticed where the names of Carriage and Cameo are coming back. As a owner of a 2011 Cameo this made me a little sick. Knowing they could probably never get the quality in their units as the original Carriage. The articles don't say but probably a Lippert frame. My goal will be a new Lifestyle, using the old Carriage quality.

Nothing wrong with a Lippert frame! It’s who specs the frame. Mobile and Elite Suites are Lippert and just fine!

Except for Lippert’s known quality control track record, failed or missing welds, ect. !
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Jan 08, 2019
kennethwooster wrote:
I noticed where the names of Carriage and Cameo are coming back. As a owner of a 2011 Cameo this made me a little sick. Knowing they could probably never get the quality in their units as the original Carriage. The articles don't say but probably a Lippert frame. My goal will be a new Lifestyle, using the old Carriage quality.

Nothing wrong with a Lippert frame! It’s who specs the frame. Mobile and Elite Suites are Lippert and just fine!
memtb
Explorer
Jan 07, 2019
kennethwooster wrote:
I noticed where the names of Carriage and Cameo are coming back. As a owner of a 2011 Cameo this made me a little sick. Knowing they could probably never get the quality in their units as the original Carriage. The articles don't say but probably a Lippert frame. My goal will be a new Lifestyle, using the old Carriage quality.

It would be like me, trying to pass myself off as Christ......not, remotely close. The same can be said of this, attempt at living off of a quality name!
TXiceman
Explorer II
Jan 07, 2019
I looked at a "New" Cameo and I can say without question.....I was under impressed. Lots of surface glitz and no bones.

You need to look at Grand Design and VanLeigh. Or keep your older Montana.

Ken
edbehnke
Explorer
Jan 06, 2019
UPDATING THIS THREAD.
does anyone out there have a recently made cameo from crossroads? we are looking at the 35 foot cameo.

looking for your input.
Mile_High
Explorer
Nov 19, 2014
Ya, its too bad that not only did they mismanage the company, they mismanaged the name and sold you dinosaurs out to the highest bidder.

I don't blame Crossroads a bit for exploiting the name, they paid for it after all. I wish them the best of luck.

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