on a side note, just went outside to get cargo measurements and the cargo area for the 4100 is only 11ft long! A whole foot shorter than advertised! How does a manufacturer mess up like that? this doesnt really effect us right now since our Ranger will fit, but in the next year or so when we get a 4 seater to carry all the little ones this will become an issue. Didnt get a toy hauler to have to pull doubles. I was worried about the height of the vehicles, but it never occurred to me to check the freaking length!