Allworth wrote:
How did anything about Travel Trailers get into this discussion??
Fifth wheels do not have a bumper load.
The same physics applies to a travel trailer without weight distribution as a 5th wheel.
In simple terms regardless of the type of trailer assuming no weight distribution pin/tongue weight is total truck weight (both truck axles)with trailer attached less total truck weight without trailer.
Subtracting the drive axle weights does not give true pin/tongue weight.
"Fifth wheels do not have a bumper load"
A fifth wheel with pin behind the drive axle has the same effect on the weights as a bumper load.