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In reality when you go to a manufacturer web site to build a truck, the ordering system should be able to calculate the actual payload within 100#.

JIMNLIN wrote:
(quote=OP)The cargo rating according to Chevrolet’s website is almost #3100. I looked at the sticker on the door jamb and it said not to exceed #2750. I just lost another #350. So I pissed off the salesman and backed out of the deal. We are now looking for a one ton. (/quote)
GM has a website weights calculator on their online ordering guide webs that will give you the trucks actual front and rear axle weights with std equipment and options on the truck. https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/

...Choose year model (2019) and order information..
...click on chevy truck..
...upper right hand corner click on truck truck model (3500HD)..
...then click on model and options weights..

Many folks use this for some very close numbers. Eliminates guessing opinions. Play around with the website as it has some other useful mechanical tech info on GM LDTs.

Or take a walk around the lot and open a few doors to check some door jamb stickers.

(quote=OP)The cargo rating according to Chevrolet’s website is almost #3100. I looked at the sticker on the door jamb and it said not to exceed #2750. I just lost another #350. So I pissed off the salesman and backed out of the deal. We are now looking for a one ton. (/quote)
GM has a website weights calculator on their online ordering guide webs that will give you the trucks actual front and rear axle weights with std equipment and options on the truck. https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/

...Choose year model (2019) and order information..
...click on chevy truck..
...upper right hand corner click on truck truck model (3500HD)..
...then click on model and options weights..

Many folks use this for some very close numbers. Eliminates guessing opinions. Play around with the website as it has some other useful mechanical tech info on GM LDTs.

Even if you order your next truck, I would have the salesperson show you a similar truck on the lot, and look at its payload sticker to get a ball park payload.

Rwake901 wrote:
Went to pickup our new truck last night. The cargo rating according to Chevrolet’s website is almost #3100. I looked at the sticker on the door jamb and it said not to exceed #2750. I just lost another #350. So I pissed off the salesman and backed out of the deal. We are now looking for a one ton. All the salesman kept saying was you’ll be fine. I new all he wanted to do was sell a truck. Now I’m at square one again. I have a new fifth wheel at the dealer and no way to get it home. lol

That 3100# payload is the "Maximum" possible payload for a stripped truck. As you have found out, by the time you dress it up the way you want it that number comes down in a hurry.
And good move not listening to the Salesman!! They shut up real quick when you ask them to put it in writing!

laknox wrote:
You do lose the engine braking that a diesel gives you.

You also lose the convenience of using the truck pumps at truck stops. :D

It's so nice not having to maneuver a gas station with the trailer attached. I've done it a time or two to fill up my generator tank. But mostly prefer to avoid it!

Rwake901 wrote:
Went to pickup our new truck last night. The cargo rating according to Chevrolet’s website is almost #3100. I looked at the sticker on the door jamb and it said not to exceed #2750. I just lost another #350. So I pissed off the salesman and backed out of the deal. We are now looking for a one ton. All the salesman kept saying was you’ll be fine. I new all he wanted to do was sell a truck. Now I’m at square one again. I have a new fifth wheel at the dealer and no way to get it home. lol

GOOD choice! I think you'll be a lot happier. IMO, you'd be fine with a SRW 1t at those weights, but if you want to go bigger in the future, you'll be limited. Not saying you should get a dually, but think about what you might want to to in 5 years. Personally, even though we went bigger (18" taller, 3' longer and 2 more slides) we actually went =down= in the FW's GVW by 820 lbs. :-)

Also, don't let the "screaming engine" guys deter you from a gasser. Gas engines produce their highest h.p. at high RPM, and are designed for it. I'd get 4.10 gears, for sure. You do lose the engine braking that a diesel gives you. Just be aware that, in the mountains, you're going to need to be =real= patient going up hills and =real= careful going down. On uphills, trying to run in a higher gear is likely to kill your mileage even more =and= can cause overheating; I speak from experience on both counts. Running at higher RPM allows the engine to run more "free" and it will actually not work as hard, illogical as that sounds. My dad's a firm believer that cruise controls should have the option to set an RPM instead of speed. :B

Lyle

Rwake901 wrote:
Went to pickup our new truck last night. The cargo rating according to Chevrolet’s website is almost #3100. I looked at the sticker on the door jamb and it said not to exceed #2750. I just lost another #350. So I pissed off the salesman and backed out of the deal. We are now looking for a one ton. All the salesman kept saying was you’ll be fine. I new all he wanted to do was sell a truck. Now I’m at square one again. I have a new fifth wheel at the dealer and no way to get it home. lol

Good decision, now find the right 1 ton, gas or diesel. If going gas I would look at Ford 6.2, or Ram 6.4, with 4.30 Ford, or 4.10 Ram gearing.
I know diesel is much higher up front, but ease of towing, and resale is so much better.

Well you can stick to gas or change to diesel, not going to try to change your mind on that.
What I will ask you to think about is that GM has the lowest payloads, and tow ratings, Ford next, then Ram for SRW one tons.

Well that may be a good thing. I thought you already owned the truck. Starting from square one, a 1 ton diesel would be a great choice.

The door payload sticker on a 3/4 T is showing the difference between the class 2 10K GVWR minus the weight the truck left the factory. So the truck you were looking at weighed 7,250 as delivered. You cannot go by the website numbers, as each truck will be different, depending on options. The 1 ton will start out with a higher class 3 GVWR, less the actual truck wt, to get payload. The good thing...it will have a higher RAWR.

Get the fifth wheel prep option on whatever new truck you get!

Jerry