DRW vs. SRW for towing fivers

Us out West wrote:
Friends we run with have a 5ver similar to size and weight of ours. They recently upgraded from a SRW F-350 LB diesel to a Ram 3500 LB diesel dually and he says it's like night and day. Easier towing with stability making for a much more comfortable pull.

Says he wish he would have made the switch earlier...I've been trying to tell him...now he believes!!!

For those that want to live on the edge of safety pulling a heavy rig that is your choice.

Safe travels.

You were doing fine until you had to throw the "safety jab". There is nothing unsafe about towing with a SRW within it's designed capacity. There are those that are paranoid......and they should probably have duallies on the steering axle as well.

I've had both - and the dually does well with the current rig, but I certainly don't feel reborn :R

Friends we run with have a 5ver similar to size and weight of ours. They recently upgraded from a SRW F-350 LB diesel to a Ram 3500 LB diesel dually and he says it's like night and day. Easier towing with stability making for a much more comfortable pull.

Says he wish he would have made the switch earlier...I've been trying to tell him...now he believes!!!

For those that want to live on the edge of safety pulling a heavy rig that is your choice.

Safe travels.

NC Hauler wrote:

Infinityrver wrote:
Dual tires on the rear gives you the confidence of stability and extra tires on the axle. For a camper trailer its fine. We've all seen people overload one ton duallies, also.

My camper trailer has a tongue weight of approx. 2500lbs loaded with my stuff. My tires are light truck tires and can take 3640 lbs @ 80psi per tire. The tires can take a lot more tongue weight than what my one ton truck SRW is actually rated for. So, I wouldn't get too excited about a camper trailer overloading the tires on a one ton SRW.

Honestly, I've yet to see a lot of one ton SRW trucks towing a fifth wheel camper with blown tires and broken springs stranded on the side of the highways. Usually a blown tire will be from not enough air or warn out.

I own commercial trucks that we have to watch weights over bridges and on highways. I'm up close and personal with weights and heights on our commercial trucks.

I haul my camper from Maine to Florida and back again, problem free.

People overload all trucks, not just 1 ton dually's, they also overload 1 ton SRW, 3/4 and 1/2 ton trucks..just look around...a sad, but true statement when someone states, "everybody does it":R

The one problem with using a higher pressure tires, lets say the one's you speak of, at being able to handle 3640# each, that is a total of 7280# they can handle, BUT, if the axle is only rated at 6,000#....your AXLE has now become the weak link,, not the tires.. If you have a tire that carries more weight than your axle, you have defeated the purpose and just think you gained more cargo carrying capacity...but I don't know the RAWR of the 1 ton SRW you speak of, though I know the RAWR of a 2013 Ram 3500 SRW is 7,000#...I'd hate to think that I've not well overloaded the trucks GVWR, but have cut into 80% or more of the trucks RAWR...seems a great way to abuse one's truck and take away from safety measures built into the truck.....

Don't recollect very many, if anyone stating broken down 1 ton SRW trucks with, tongue in cheek, broken springs and on...ridiculous..all this entire thread was about was differences or reason behind getting a DRW over a SRW or vice versa....some have taken it to ludicrous levels...but, such is life as we know it in 2013....

You're entitled to write whatever your opinion........as well as I did! Happy travelin'.

Infinityrver wrote:
Dual tires on the rear gives you the confidence of stability and extra tires on the axle. For a camper trailer its fine. We've all seen people overload one ton duallies, also.

My camper trailer has a tongue weight of approx. 2500lbs loaded with my stuff. My tires are light truck tires and can take 3640 lbs @ 80psi per tire. The tires can take a lot more tongue weight than what my one ton truck SRW is actually rated for. So, I wouldn't get too excited about a camper trailer overloading the tires on a one ton SRW.

Honestly, I've yet to see a lot of one ton SRW trucks towing a fifth wheel camper with blown tires and broken springs stranded on the side of the highways. Usually a blown tire will be from not enough air or warn out.

I own commercial trucks that we have to watch weights over bridges and on highways. I'm up close and personal with weights and heights on our commercial trucks.

I haul my camper from Maine to Florida and back again, problem free.

People overload all trucks, not just 1 ton dually's, they also overload 1 ton SRW, 3/4 and 1/2 ton trucks..just look around...a sad, but true statement when someone states, "everybody does it":R

The one problem with using a higher pressure tires, lets say the one's you speak of, at being able to handle 3640# each, that is a total of 7280# they can handle, BUT, if the axle is only rated at 6,000#....your AXLE has now become the weak link,, not the tires.. If you have a tire that carries more weight than your axle, you have defeated the purpose and just think you gained more cargo carrying capacity...but I don't know the RAWR of the 1 ton SRW you speak of, though I know the RAWR of a 2013 Ram 3500 SRW is 7,000#...I'd hate to think that I've not well overloaded the trucks GVWR, but have cut into 80% or more of the trucks RAWR...seems a great way to abuse one's truck and take away from safety measures built into the truck.....

Don't recollect very many, if anyone stating broken down 1 ton SRW trucks with, tongue in cheek, broken springs and on...ridiculous..all this entire thread was about was differences or reason behind getting a DRW over a SRW or vice versa....some have taken it to ludicrous levels...but, such is life as we know it in 2013....

justme wrote:
I pull a 16,000 gvw trailer with a Ford F350 diesel SRW and the truck does not know that a trailer is in tow. A dually is a pain in the butt if you really don't need one. The SRW trucks these days are a big improvement of the past. Duallys are needed for trailer with High GVW and then I would go for a 450 which is built to be a dually rather than an add on like the 250/350 would be.

I'd worry about that...do you tow in the mountains any? Just curious...I got to get an F350 SRW if you can tow a 16,000# trailer and not even know you're towing a trailer....that is fantastic...I will admit, though I hate to....having towed 5er's with Chevy SRW trucks and Chevy DRW trucks with D/A's as well as the Ram's I've owned....on some of the mountains I've towed, I knew 16,000# was "back there"

Didn't really understand your last statement, "If I would go for a 450 which is built to be a dually rather than an "add on" like the 250/350 would be:h..WOW.....heck, I'm an engineer and didn't understand that....so an F350 or 3500 Chevy or Ram just have "an add on"??????:h

Dual tires on the rear gives you the confidence of stability and extra tires on the axle. For a camper trailer its fine. We've all seen people overload one ton duallies, also.

My camper trailer has a tongue weight of approx. 2500lbs loaded with my stuff. My tires are light truck tires and can take 3640 lbs @ 80psi per tire. The tires can take a lot more tongue weight than what my one ton truck SRW is actually rated for. So, I wouldn't get too excited about a camper trailer overloading the tires on a one ton SRW.

Honestly, I've yet to see a lot of one ton SRW trucks towing a fifth wheel camper with blown tires and broken springs stranded on the side of the highways. Usually a blown tire will be from not enough air or warn out.

I own commercial trucks that we have to watch weights over bridges and on highways. I'm up close and personal with weights and heights on our commercial trucks.

I haul my camper from Maine to Florida and back again, problem free.

Just get a doolie. That way you won't have to hear about it anymore from the good folks at RV.net.

That's what I did and it finally gave me the piece of mind knowing that I would finally fit in and be accepted.

Worth every penny of the $60k I spent.

"....and the crowd began to chant, DOO-LEE!...DOO-LEE"....DOO-LEE.."

justme wrote:
I pull a 16,000 gvw trailer with a Ford F350 diesel SRW and the truck does not know that a trailer is in tow. A dually is a pain in the butt if you really don't need one. The SRW trucks these days are a big improvement of the past. Duallys are needed for trailer with High GVW and then I would go for a 450 which is built to be a dually rather than an add on like the 250/350 would be.

Lots of people pull their trailers just fine, including those with 16,000 GVWR. I would ask, what is your payload limit as indicated on your door post label? And, do you know your actual pin weight? Add that pin weight to your passenger weight, hitch weight, any other cargo or tools/boxes and most SRW will be beyond that label limit. Tows fine but overloaded. What one chooses to do about it is personal, but doesn't change the numbers.

I pull a 16,000 gvw trailer with a Ford F350 diesel SRW and the truck does not know that a trailer is in tow. A dually is a pain in the butt if you really don't need one. The SRW trucks these days are a big improvement of the past. Duallys are needed for trailer with High GVW and then I would go for a 450 which is built to be a dually rather than an add on like the 250/350 would be.

lar5camping wrote:
This is getting monotonous, crazy boring.
Some people like SRW, others DRW.
It's like toothpaste, Crest or Colgate.
To each his own.
I like Crest ....because:
"Crest has been shown to be an effective decay-preventing dentifrice that can be of significant value when used in a conscientiously applied program of oral hygiene and regular professional care."

As a world famous person recently said.
"What difference does it make?" :S

Some heavier RV owners absolutely need to have a dually to stay within the recommended weight ratings of their truck. Lighter RV owners may have a choice and then it is based on personal preference. And that s/b ok with everyone including you.