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JRscooby wrote:

ford truck guy wrote:
I like the concept and idea....

Not so sure I'd want to see the folks who can now bring their kitchen sink because they now "have the room" .

I am curious as to how well the AC system will work with the cold air being pumped UP instead of just falling down.??

Where does the cool air come from in your house?

Our Winnebago Journey had basement air. Worked flawlessly, AND was super quiet.

BTW, the cool air in my house comes from vents in the ceiling, much as it does in many, many, many houses

ford truck guy wrote:

JRscooby wrote:

ford truck guy wrote:
I like the concept and idea....

Not so sure I'd want to see the folks who can now bring their kitchen sink because they now "have the room" .

I am curious as to how well the AC system will work with the cold air being pumped UP instead of just falling down.??

Where does the cool air come from in your house?

Completely DIFFERENT systems.... comparing apples and bananas .
HVAC systems in stick and Bricks are not anything like the AC's in RV's

First, with the basement that trailer has the same basic system as the house could be used.
But to the point of your first post; Will the cold air coming into the room from the ducts act different because there are wheels under the room? Bet if you don't tell it it's in a RV it will never know. And it does not need to know how it was cooled.

I can see pros and cons
- I like removing things from the roof. Ideally, there would be no roof penetrations and with some careful planning, that is very much possible.
- Mini Split units would allow nice flexibility in putting cooling anywhere you want while the exterior portion of the unit lives on the rear bumper.
- With the extra structure to build on two levels and the ability to fill that storage space, I really wonder if 3000lb CCC is realistic. I'm betting 20k GVWR is more realistic rather than 16.5k.
- You lose the high ceilings that make a 5er feel more open.
- A rear 5ft high garage with a 5ft bedroom in the back would make for an interesting bunkhouse option where you don't have to have the kids litterally living in the garage.

Didn't Alfa have basement a/c's when they were in production? I'm pretty sure the motorhomes did, but I'm not sure about their 5th wheel trailers. And I have no recollection of how efficient they were.

As one who has lost a 5er to a blow over I am very cautious of high straight roofed 5ers to begin with.

This goes to the extreme. It is extra high roofed, thinking trees in CGs, & the windage on the sides will be terrific.

All for what? More storage to fill up with junk & sitting on 2 axles? No thanks. How many will think it is just fine to tow one of these beasts with a SRW short box truck?

Better spilt system ac units are long overdue. Spilt systems are more efficient. The roof is a terrible location for the fan coil and the heat generated sitting next to the compressor compounds the efficiency losses. Removing the ac from the roof would also make for much cleaner solar panel installs.

schlep1967 wrote:
Interesting concept. With the high ceilings a ceiling fan would help circulate the air. .......

84" ceiling height is only 7'. Since many men, and some women, are taller than 6' a ceiling fan is not really an option.

ford truck guy wrote:
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I am curious as to how well the AC system will work with the cold air being pumped UP instead of just falling down.??

Cold air blowing up would probably circulate the air more than blowing down. The cold air would go up toward the ceiling and move around the air there before falling back down to the floor returns.

Probably basement air units like Winnebago had for years. Expensive though.

JRscooby wrote:

ford truck guy wrote:
I like the concept and idea....

Not so sure I'd want to see the folks who can now bring their kitchen sink because they now "have the room" .

I am curious as to how well the AC system will work with the cold air being pumped UP instead of just falling down.??

Where does the cool air come from in your house?

Completely DIFFERENT systems.... comparing apples and bananas .
HVAC systems in stick and Bricks are not anything like the AC's in RV's

With all that basement storage, they had better but some really heavy duty axles and tires on it.