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agesilaus
Aug 21, 2014Explorer III
"Those "1/2 ton rated" 5th wheels from Grand Design certainly fall into the 1/2 ton tow ratings, but with dry pins if 1500lbs+/- they will be closer to 1800+lbs when loaded and will tax all but a few 1/2 tons. Average 1/2 ton payload is around 1500lbs. My 2010 F150 with Max Tow had an 1857lb payload rating. No way could I tow that with two people in the truck, a few camping things thrown in and not be over the trucks RAWR and GVW. "
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OK I went out and checked the actual Tundra payloads. They seem to range from 1300 to 1600 +- depending on options. Oddly Toyota America says that payload does not include a driver or fuel. But check the sticker inside the drivers door to get the numbers for your truck.
Even at 1600, when you subtract a 150# hitch, passengers and other stuff in the truck you are going to be well below 1000#. Especially if you have to subtract driver weight and 150# for a full tank.
For comparison the 2014 F150 payload can be over 2100# and that's why people don't think Tundra's make good tow vehicles. I understand that Toyota is planning of beefing up the Tundra in the next couple years. But it will still be a 1/2 ton not a HD/SD pickup.
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OK I went out and checked the actual Tundra payloads. They seem to range from 1300 to 1600 +- depending on options. Oddly Toyota America says that payload does not include a driver or fuel. But check the sticker inside the drivers door to get the numbers for your truck.
Even at 1600, when you subtract a 150# hitch, passengers and other stuff in the truck you are going to be well below 1000#. Especially if you have to subtract driver weight and 150# for a full tank.
For comparison the 2014 F150 payload can be over 2100# and that's why people don't think Tundra's make good tow vehicles. I understand that Toyota is planning of beefing up the Tundra in the next couple years. But it will still be a 1/2 ton not a HD/SD pickup.
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