My wife and I are getting very close to moving to "Full Time RVing". We have one dilemma our 30K Harley Davidson motorcycle. We are still up in the air over Fifth Wheel w/ attached platform off the back supported by 1 or 2 wheels vs RV w/ trailer behind it. For me (and I am slowly convincing my wife) fifth wheel (may be toy hauler) or attached trailer that I was referencing earlier because I already have the truck to pull it. Or an RV w/ trailer behind it with motorcycle and small car inside of it. So I need a place to put my Harley when we make this move. Anyone on the Pros vs Cons of this idea?Also when talking about the Harley, has anyone found any RV parks across America that actually has a small garage attached to the site? For anyone that rides motorcycles, there is a place in Georgia called Copperhead Lodge that caters strictly to "bikers". If you haven't seen the place or been there please check out their website to see what I am talking about referencing the garage. I would need to fine some parks across America that would have some kind of enclosure for that Harley. Thank you to all that read this and "happy RVIing" hope to see ya'll on the road one day soon? Regards!

I've pulled a 35' 5th wheel with a Smart Trailer attached. I had the one with 2 wheels and never had any issues with the tires, and we traveled about 10,000 miles before I got rid of it. It worked very well for several years, but I've since gone to a toyhauler and like it better. They did move around back there a lot and I just never got completely comfortable with it. A camera to watch things is a necessity.I never got stopped but I wouldn't have been surprised to be stopped at some point. They kind of confuse the LEO's because some places consider them part of the trailer. A motorhome pulling a trailer probably would be the best idea if you're enamored of taking a car and bike both.I've not seen any campgrounds/RV parks with attached garages. There are portable bike cover type things, and actual bike covers that work well enough to keep the dirt off. I mean it's a motorcycle and they get dirty.

My vote is for a toy hauler, keeping the bike inside and safe while driving, priceless! If you have the truck to pull one, no question.

Check out the Grand Design Momentum 376TH. Doesn’t give up living space but has a space for your motorcycle.https://www.granddesignrv.com/showroom/2019/toy-hauler/momentum/floorplans/376th

Toy hauler is your answer. No way should you hang the weight of a HD of the back of a 5er. The frames are not designed for that much weight.Ken

TXiceman wrote:Toy hauler is your answer. No way should you hang the weight of a HD of the back of a 5er. The frames are not designed for that much weight.KenSome frames can carry the load but they are few. New Horizons has no problem carrying it with their 18" frames and my Mobile Suites with a 16" frame has had no problems with over 40K miles on it.

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fj12ryder
Explorer III
May 12, 2018
attuco wrote:
... I think the Idaho Tote is legal in the Pacific Northwest.
Maybe it is, but unless you've pulled one there and been stopped and told it's okay by more than one LEO, it's very hard to be sure.

Add-on trailers, like the swivel-wheel types and Idaho Tote, are legal in some areas and not in other areas, and cause confusion to most LEO's. :) I think that's the reason they don't get stopped more. We never got stopped and were in several states that don't allow double towing. It's just a **** shoot.
fj12ryder
Explorer III
May 12, 2018
attuco wrote:
My 2 cents: you have to sacrifice too much living space with a Toyhauler. I think the Idaho Tote is legal in the Pacific Northwest.
Not necessarily, it just depends on the model. We lose about 2 feet of living space when we take the motorcycles out and swing the wall back into position. That's one of the reasons we bought the Fuzion 383.
meleavingsoon
Explorer
May 12, 2018
That will be a big seller....finally a designer with some creativity.
attuco
Explorer
May 12, 2018
My 2 cents: you have to sacrifice too much living space with a Toyhauler. I think the Idaho Tote is legal in the Pacific Northwest.
StirCrazy
Moderator
May 12, 2018
I saw this one at the Rv show last week. just enough space for a Harley and other than that you would never know its a toy hauler

cedar creek silverback

take a look at the pictures, not your typical toyhauler. inside you would never know it was one

Steve
fj12ryder
Explorer III
May 10, 2018
meleavingsoon wrote:
And there it is in a nutshell... we campers are always discontent and want more and more don't we :)
Just like car buyers, truck buyers, television buyers, cell phone buyers, cell phone plan buyer, etc. Tends to be the nature of the beast.
meleavingsoon
Explorer
May 10, 2018
Veebyes wrote:
There is no getting everything you want. You lose living space with a toy hauler. Top end toy haulers are few. Short of custom frames & moving wheels aft to compensate for bike weight very few5ers of can carry more than a few hundred pounds on the back. Too many people want to carry too much stuff. Maybe a converted 53' semi with at least 6 slides is the answer

And there it is in a nutshell... we campers are always discontent and want more and more don't we :)
Veebyes
Explorer II
May 09, 2018
There is no getting everything you want. You lose living space with a toy hauler. Top end toy haulers are few. Short of custom frames & moving wheels aft to compensate for bike weight very few5ers of can carry more than a few hundred pounds on the back. Too many people want to carry too much stuff. Maybe a converted 53' semi with at least 6 slides is the answer
Road_Phantom
Explorer
May 09, 2018
A Toyhauler would seem perfect for you. You could store the bike under the front overhang. A good boat shop can make a snap on tent enclosure for it.
laknox
Nomad
May 09, 2018
normy41 wrote:
My wife and I are getting very close to moving to "Full Time RVing". We have one dilemma our 30K Harley Davidson motorcycle. We are still up in the air over Fifth Wheel w/ attached platform off the back supported by 1 or 2 wheels vs RV w/ trailer behind it. For me (and I am slowly convincing my wife) fifth wheel (may be toy hauler) or attached trailer that I was referencing earlier because I already have the truck to pull it. Or an RV w/ trailer behind it with motorcycle and small car inside of it. So I need a place to put my Harley when we make this move. Anyone on the Pros vs Cons of this idea?

Also when talking about the Harley, has anyone found any RV parks across America that actually has a small garage attached to the site? For anyone that rides motorcycles, there is a place in Georgia called Copperhead Lodge that caters strictly to "bikers". If you haven't seen the place or been there please check out their website to see what I am talking about referencing the garage. I would need to fine some parks across America that would have some kind of enclosure for that Harley.

Thank you to all that read this and "happy RVIing" hope to see ya'll on the road one day soon? Regards!

Without reading ahead:

1) Swivel-wheel totes are a great option, but aren't legal in a lot of states. Some states treat them as a trailer and they must be separately licensed. Those states likely don't allow double-towing and, because it's, according to them, a "trailer", it isn't allowed. Now you're stuck with how to get across that state if you get pulled over. Some states' LEOs will pull you over and hassle you even if it =is= legal because they have no clue. Lots and lots of "stories" here about guys who tow doubles and "never get pulled over" and guys who tow legally and =do= get pulled over.

2) To cover your bike, a) get a small pop-up shelter, b) enclose the front of a FW with snap-on tarps and park under there.

3) Get a TH. Just be sure that where you park that you can drop the tailgate to access the garage when you want to park the bike.

4) Get a MH with enclosed trailer that can double as a bike garage when not riding.

Lyle

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