GCWR vs GVWR question

JIMNLIN wrote:

OP says wrote:
I guess the real question is, if the GCWR is below the 23,500lbs weight rating, but because of the pin weight, is above the 10,000lbs GVWR but below the 6,000lbs GAWR, am I actually considered overweight when it comes to STOPPING the vehicle?

Whew... lots of numbers and questions about numbers
Some points here.
The trucks brakes are a function of the FAWR/RAWR. Your F250 may have a 5000 FAWR and a 6100 RAWR = 11000 lb of braking performance.
Your 375FLF Montana has tandam 7k axles = 14000 lbs of braking performance.
Combined you have 25000 lb of braking performance. Thats assuming all brakes are working properly.

I wouldn't be concerned with braking performance from your '12 F250. Looking at Fleet Fords Body spec sheets shows your F250 have the same front/rear brakes as the F350 SRW.
Ford has over a dozen different GVWR's for the '12 F250/F350 SRW trucks so it makes cents/sense to produce brakes for the highest rating of front and rear axle numbers and apply it to those lines.

I didn't read a "am I overweight" in all those numbers. Legally GVWR doesn't determine how much load the truck can carry. Some owners have reported going over the trucks RAWR/tire load rating by using the newer high GVWR numbers to figure loads.
And GCWR isn't on the vehicles certification placards and also isn't used in any legal sense.
Stay under those GAWRs/tire load rating and you will safely stop and go with your rig.

OP stated 6000 RGAWR! I do not know which tires Ford installed on his truck, however tires usually are what determines the rear axle GAWR. OP also in posts across several different threads fails to state if his truck is a 2x4 or 4x4, it is however a CC SB. CC tend to be heavy and eat into capacity.

What he should do is:

1. Weigh front and rear axles of the truck, loaded with people, equipment and hitch(if he has it installed).
2. Post the Max tire rating from the sidewall of the existing tires.
3. State if it is 2x4 or 4x4.
4. Tell us the weight of the hitch that he is going to install or weight the truck with as above.
5. Forget dry weights of the trailer.

Anyway you cut this he will be over the trucks GVWR. To tow it and not be over the rear tire rating is the real issue if he does not want to purchase a new truck. He already has downsized his choice of trailer for the front living room model. If that is what he really wants, then why go down this route. Get a Duallie and go get the trailer he really wanted to start with.

Of course if he installed the Rickson 19.5 wheel/tires and the Firestone air bags he talked about in his other thread, it would handle the FL model trailer.

My next truck will be a RAM 3500 4x4 LB SRW, and if I get to heavy on the rear tires with a future trailer, I will go with the Rickson 19.5 rim/tires.

Chris