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Mar 15, 2014

Good Torque Wrench?

I seem to have galled the lug threads, and destroyed the lug nuts, on my 5th wheel. I have religiously torqued the nuts to 120 ft- lbs as I was told years ago, but seem to have screwed up anyway. Looks as if I will have to have all 32 lugs repalaced, plus new lug nuts, of course.

Have had a marathon of phone calls dealing with this, but one guy who seemed knowledgeable said I was torquing wrong. He said the torque wrench must be reset to zero after each use, otherwise the actual torque will "creep". He also said torque wrenches must be re-calibrated every couple of years, or the settings become meaningless.

Should this "torqueing" be so complicated? Is there a better wrench than my old "clicker"? Another guy said forget torque wrenches, just tighten with a rachet until you feel resistance, drive 10 miles, and tighten just until you feel resistance, again. I'm beginning to lean his way?

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Torque Wrench?","id":"message:1076906","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":44,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:26889"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1076906"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1076906"},"body":"I seem to have galled the lug threads, and destroyed the lug nuts, on my 5th wheel. I have religiously torqued the nuts to 120 ft- lbs as I was told years ago, but seem to have screwed up anyway. Looks as if I will have to have all 32 lugs repalaced, plus new lug nuts, of course.

Have had a marathon of phone calls dealing with this, but one guy who seemed knowledgeable said I was torquing wrong. He said the torque wrench must be reset to zero after each use, otherwise the actual torque will \"creep\". He also said torque wrenches must be re-calibrated every couple of years, or the settings become meaningless.

Should this \"torqueing\" be so complicated? Is there a better wrench than my old \"clicker\"? Another guy said forget torque wrenches, just tighten with a rachet until you feel resistance, drive 10 miles, and tighten just until you feel resistance, again. I'm beginning to lean his way?","body@stringLength":"927","rawBody":"I seem to have galled the lug threads, and destroyed the lug nuts, on my 5th wheel. I have religiously torqued the nuts to 120 ft- lbs as I was told years ago, but seem to have screwed up anyway. Looks as if I will have to have all 32 lugs repalaced, plus new lug nuts, of course.

Have had a marathon of phone calls dealing with this, but one guy who seemed knowledgeable said I was torquing wrong. He said the torque wrench must be reset to zero after each use, otherwise the actual torque will \"creep\". He also said torque wrenches must be re-calibrated every couple of years, or the settings become meaningless.

Should this \"torqueing\" be so complicated? Is there a better wrench than my old \"clicker\"? Another guy said forget torque wrenches, just tighten with a rachet until you feel resistance, drive 10 miles, and tighten just until you feel resistance, again. 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Good Torque Wrench?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1076950"},"body":"I heard it from Leslie Nielson. :)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"34","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-22T17:01:48.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-22T17:01:48.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":432},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1076906/message:1076950","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:235155":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:235155","uid":235155,"login":"ol_Bombero-JC","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-06-24T21:15:13.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:235155"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1076949":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1076949","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1076949":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:235155"},"id":"message:1076949","revisionNum":1,"uid":1076949,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1076906"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1076906"},"subject":"Re: 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jevanb wrote:
fj12ryder wrote:
Surely you don't use an air impact to tighten your lug nuts?
nope, because I dont carry one with me to remove them when I am out and about, I just use a impact to remove the wheel when I am at home or at work


.

\"fj12ryder\" - how do you know \"jevanb's\" name is Shirley?..:h..:@

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fj12ryder wrote:
Surely you don't use an air impact to tighten your lug nuts?
nope, because I dont carry one with me to remove them when I am out and about, I just use a impact to remove the wheel when I am at home or at work","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-22T09:50:50.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-22T09:50:50.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":426},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1076906/message:1076948","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:270146":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:270146","uid":270146,"login":"JIMNLIN","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2003-09-14T16:50:53.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:270146"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1076947":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1076947","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1076947":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:270146"},"id":"message:1076947","revisionNum":1,"uid":1076947,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1076906"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1076906"},"subject":"Re: Good Torque Wrench?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1076947"},"body":"For those that need to use a torque wrench on your trailers lugs thats fine. No one will think less of you for doing so.

And for those of us that know how to properly torque lugs with a four way thats fine also and no we don't have issues with our lugs/wheels/lug nuts/warped rotors/etc from doing so.

Now for my cars and trucks with aluminum wheels I use a torque wrench.

Lugs and nuts can gall and seize using a torque wrench or not.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-21T11:22:52.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-21T11:22:52.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":426},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1076906/message:1076947","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:273136":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:273136","uid":273136,"login":"Grady23","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-05-02T23:10:49.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:273136"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1076946":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1076946","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1076946":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:273136"},"id":"message:1076946","revisionNum":1,"uid":1076946,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1076906"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1076906"},"subject":"Re: Good Torque Wrench?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1076946"},"body":"
ol Bombero-JC wrote:
Bumpyroad wrote:
Harbor freight coupon will get you $9.95 ones.
bumpy


And - you get what you pay for.
YES - I have a HF - but besides being cheapies, they're \"shorties\"!
(My HF is relegated to riding in the trlr)

A quality \"click type\" TQ wrench from Home Depot is much longer, for great leverage - at a decent price & lifetime warranty.(IIRC about $80)
That's one of my -\"stay at home tools\"- along with the \"beam\" type I've owned since the 1950's.
What was good for flatheads then, still works just fine now..;)

Snap-on and others are excellent - but higher $.
\"Anything\" Craftsman - isn't what it used to be, and (IMO) may be on the way out in the near future.

No big deal to 'zero out' a click type wrench. (Why not?)
No big deal to do your own \"ballpark\" calibration. Google it.
No big deal to check -and abide by- the wheel mfgr's TQ specs and appropriate sequence. No lubricant.
Re-check TQ (on any wheels) after 100 miles.

Lastly - **NEVER** let a tire shop employee (or?) use an impact wrench that he \"claims\" is set to a certain torque.
*YOU* must watch and be ready to call a halt and insist on hand torquing lugs. (Remember, he may have worked at Mickey D's or Taco Bell last week)..:R


~

I agree totally --- I have both -- Old Beam type and a 30 year old click type craftsman. The guys at the tire shops use \"Torque sticks and just a gadget in my opinion. Whenever I have tire work done, I INSIST that the lugs get TIGHTENED with the lug wrench NOT the air gun. Their argument is that they check the torque with a torque wrench. That only proves that ther is AT LEAST \"X\" lbs. of torque.. and it could easily be well over the recommendation. When They use the torque wrench to tighten, your more likely torque to the correct setting. I usually recheck with my torque wrench and find at least 3 or 4 that are incorrect.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-21T11:11:16.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-21T11:11:16.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":426},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1076906/message:1076946","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1076945":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1076945","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1076945":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:21985"},"id":"message:1076945","revisionNum":1,"uid":1076945,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1076906"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1076906"},"subject":"Re: Good Torque Wrench?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1076945"},"body":"No, you're correct that many/most shops don't use a torque wrench. Which is why people complain about lug nuts being ruined by overtightening, and wheels coming off due to undertightening. Using a torque wrench would keep both those scenarios from occurring.

I figure I'm going to hand tighten the lug nuts after running them down snug with my impact wrench. Why not use a torque wrench instead of the breaker bar? Surely you don't use an air impact to tighten your lug nuts?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-21T09:58:49.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-21T09:58:49.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":426},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1076906/message:1076945","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1076944":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1076944","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1076944":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:49575"},"id":"message:1076944","revisionNum":1,"uid":1076944,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1076906"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1076906"},"subject":"Re: Good Torque Wrench?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1076944"},"body":"
ol Bombero-JC wrote:

Sorry for the quote swap with/for \"jevanb\"...:o
Sure doesn't sound like any of the A&Ps I worked with..;)
~
I use a tq wrench at work just not on my lug nuts on my truck or trailer. Think I am a idiot??, As the Directory of Maint of our Airline it is my job to make sure Tq wrench`s get used, BTW does the tire shop TQ your lug nuts after a tire change?? Been to plenty and never seen one do it? just impacts wrenches, or maybe your tire shop is the only one of the few in the U.S because you demand it.... My brother has worked at many dealerships and they don't use them either..","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"207","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-21T08:58:21.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-21T08:58:21.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":426},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1076906/message:1076944","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1076943":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1076943","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1076943":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:26889"},"id":"message:1076943","revisionNum":1,"uid":1076943,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1076906"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1076906"},"subject":"Re: Good Torque Wrench?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1076943"},"body":"I'm the OP. Bought a new torque wrench; plan to torque to 120 ftlbs and be more careful how I use it. Also return wrench to \"0\", though in this case, they say return it to \"30\", after each use.

Also bought a DeWalt cordless impact wrench, 3 replaceable batteries, which I hope will help with roadside changes.

As one poster said, I suspect I got some low quality stainless steel lug nuts that started all this. That's all I've done differently in my 17 years of pulling a 5th wheel. I bought a new set of chrome plated steel lug nuts (I hope, can't tell really), as someone recommended.

Found a good trailer place to do all this, plus check my Never Lube axles. Doc found another da@#ed melanoma in situ. Just want to deal with that for now. Thanks all. 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