dbear wrote:
NC Hauler wrote:
Hey, guess those of you who swear by a GN are right.....Everyone should be able to use a GN to tow their 5er with, whether recommended by the manufacturer or not....what does the manufacturer know anyway, they only designed, engineered and manufactured the thing, what a bunch of idiots. Those with the experience in here know far more than those people know...Guess I'm going to be one of those stupid fools who will use a conventional 5th wheel hitch if that is what the manufacturer recommends I use...even after warranty...7 yrs now like some of the GN folks and no issues with frame, sidewalls or pin box, just as HR recommended.....I acutally made a call instead of asking on this forum because i knew no one on this forum would fix my 5er for me should something happen to it, thus the reason I made a call and didn't ask for anyone's opinion on this subject....seemed to be the intelligent thing to do.....but to some, even that seems to be a really dumb idea.....wonder why?
You seem to be turning this into something personal. You make a valid point that if the manufacturer says "no," then by all means, don't do it. However, if the converse happens, as it does in the case of the Reese Goosebox for certain Lippert frames with specific weight limits, then what's your issue? Didn't that same group of designers and engineers, who you believed the in the first case, say it's okay given this set of conditions?
Nothing personal at all....I merely stated for some to make a call to the manufacturer of the 5er to see what THEY say about towing the 5er they manufactured and they provide warranty on with a GN hithc, and still, most of those go as far to say to use a GN anyway because "they've" been doing it for years", don't worry about any thing bad happening because it won't...So even a simple suggestion such as making a call has been deemed useless by most or seems ludicrous at best, thus the reason at this point, it doesn't matter to me anymore. We all know in here, per some that there has NEVER been any structural damage or front wall cracking or de-lamination caused by towing with a GN, it's nothing more than urban legend and stuff people have made up...basically a lie....
Also, and I'll only mention it one more time due to my infinite stupidity, the Reese Goosebox is LIMITED to only 16K...so I couldn't use it with my almost 17,000# 5er, but who knows, that probably doesn't matter either.....And just because Lippert say's it's ok to use the Goosebox because they make most of the frames underneath most 5er's, whether it be good or bad, if they say they'll fix any issue that goes wrong with frame, or sidewall, then that's good enough for me...they have a fine reputation of taking care of their customers..... Me?? I'd still want it in writing as to what they would or wouldn't repair in case of some damage if I tow my 5er with a GN, though my manufacturer recommends not to....I've been on these forums long enough to know that there has been damage caused to some frames and/or pin boxes ...but we all know it certainly wasn't Lipperts quality work in manufacturing the frames for most of our 5er's...
Seeing the quality in vehicles, campers and hitches that I've owned since I've been towing pop-up's, TT's and 5th wheels going back to 1975...."NO", I don't trust much of anything any of them say, but IF I'm told not to tow a 5er with a GN because It will or might void some or all of my warranty...yeah, I'll buy into that one, Especially when the 5er is built and manufactured "up front", so much differently than a Horse Trailer, my years of physics, R&D and Engineering experience will kick in on occasion and "seeing is believing" will affect some of my decisions and beliefs on this very topic..
