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Grand Design

I am looking at a grand design 303 rls. What are your thoughts good or bad. The thing that worrys me is the lippit frame.

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DKRITTER wrote:
How has GD changed if any since the were bought out by Winnebago?


They haven't.

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DKRITTER wrote:
How has GD changed if any since the were bought out by Winnebago?


They haven't.

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wilber1 wrote:
Make sure the dealer pulls all the hubs and checks for leaking seals before you take delivery, this is a Lippert production problem as I understand the frames come from Lippert with axles installed. Once the bearings are repacked properly, they don't seem to be an issue. In twelve years I never had an axle problem with my old 5th and its Dexter axles. It seems Lippert is struggling to make a 100 year old technology work and has been in no rush to figure it out.

I find it astonishing that they continue to deliver axles with seals they know are likely already leaking.

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battleshipbud

I wouldn't worry about an axle or bearing failure, just grease covered brakes. One of the issues is far too much grease in the hubs and the thickness of the grease used, not dry bearings. We are half way through our third trip from Canada to So Cal and back plus all the other RV'ing we do and although we did have grease covered brakes, the bearings were fine. Just make sure you get any problem rectified before you accept the unit.


Funny story...last 3 grease seals we pulled on Lippert axles had Dexter seals on them. All leaked.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-01-25T11:03:00.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-01-25T11:03:00.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":307},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2538503/message:2538519","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1230","rawBody":"
wilber1 wrote:
Make sure the dealer pulls all the hubs and checks for leaking seals before you take delivery, this is a Lippert production problem as I understand the frames come from Lippert with axles installed. Once the bearings are repacked properly, they don't seem to be an issue. In twelve years I never had an axle problem with my old 5th and its Dexter axles. It seems Lippert is struggling to make a 100 year old technology work and has been in no rush to figure it out.

I find it astonishing that they continue to deliver axles with seals they know are likely already leaking.

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battleshipbud

I wouldn't worry about an axle or bearing failure, just grease covered brakes. One of the issues is far too much grease in the hubs and the thickness of the grease used, not dry bearings. We are half way through our third trip from Canada to So Cal and back plus all the other RV'ing we do and although we did have grease covered brakes, the bearings were fine. Just make sure you get any problem rectified before you accept the unit.


Funny story...last 3 grease seals we pulled on Lippert axles had Dexter seals on them. 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