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Lilliemae30
Explorer
Jul 29, 2016

Have 3 inch clerance/new truck/ need 6 for level fiver

Just picked up the new dodge ram 2500 we ordered.The height of the bed rails is 3" higher from the ground than the old truck. The truck is backed under the fifth wheel camper. Not hitched and there is only a 3" clearance.

Only 1800/2000 lb pin weight. Our old truck (2003 Dodge 2500) had the 6" clearance and only settled 1" or so when hitched.

We need to get to a 6" clearance but still keep the fifth wheel camper level. Do we compress the springs to the truck, will that be enough to lower the bed of the truck? From the vround

We have a Reese hitch that is 13 years old but have had no problems with.
Any and all advice appreciated including what type of place or person to take it to.
  • rhagfo's avatar
    rhagfo
    Explorer III
    Here we go again, three reply's without the knowledge of how much the truck will settle once the 5er is set on it.

    #1 Install the hitch and hook up to see what you really have.

    #2 Once hooked up on level ground measure from the ground to rail at the pin location. Take that measurement and add 6' to it for clearance call this measurement1.

    #3 Now drop the Landing gear an disconnect from the 5er right there.

    #4 Now level the 5er in place, once level measure at the location of the pin, from the ground to the underside of the 5er at the pin.. Call this measurement2.

    #5 Now time for math Measurement1-Measurement2=distance to lift 5er at axles to tow level with 6" of clearance at bed rails.

    Understand that if you install your old hitch in the new truck, as it came out of the old, and the distance from the bed floor to the rail isn't different between the old and new trucks, you will have the same rail clearance you had on the old truck. The 5er may not be level could be a little nose high, so then we start to deal with that.
  • Me Again wrote:
    Until you actual hook up with pin weight on the truck, you are wasting brain cycles trying to figure this out. New trucks settle more than older ones.

    Chris


    X2 Once you get your trailer hooked up to your new truck only then can you determine what needs to happen. Obviously your trailer is going to sit nose high initially, from there you'll have to determine if it can be corrected with your pin box (probably not) or if you're going to have to raise the trailer (change suspension).

    That's what we had to do, raise our trailer a couple of inches via suspension upgrade to get it closer to level.

    Dan
  • Until you actual hook up with pin weight on the truck, you are wasting brain cycles trying to figure this out. New trucks settle more than older ones.

    Chris
  • garyp4951 wrote:
    ...since it would be the diameter of the axle plus the thickness of the spring pack.
    Plus 2 times the height of the spring pads...

    If you have a 3" diameter axle tube, 2" thick spring packs, and 1" high spring mounting pads, the lift ends up being 3 + 2 + 1 + 1 = 7
  • Moving the pin box down will increase the bed clearance then the FW has to be leveled. I would move the pin then pull the FW onto wood 2x10's or whatever to see where it levels up. From there you will be able to decide on how to do that. Go to 16 in tires, axle alignment kit, subframe or axle flip. I guess some people choose to lower the truck???
  • You could add Correct Track to the rv for a 2" lift, and axle alignment. If your springs are under the axle, moving them above the axle would probably be too much, since it would be the diameter of the axle plus the thickness of the spring pack.
  • Can you possibly flip the axles under the leaf springs on the trailer and raise it up a few inches that way?