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KoJackz
Explorer
Feb 27, 2017

I don't want too, but I have too ...

Ok a question asked by anyone making the decision to buy a fifth .... anyone reading this knows what I'm about to ask ... I'm sry I just want to be safe .

The TV: 03 Silverado 2500 HD 8.1L 4x4 ext cab 3.73 rear end

The 5er we're contemplating purchasing: 09 Cougar SRX dry weight: 9125 capacity: 2990 Hitch: 1955

The GVWR is 9200

The GAWR is 6084

The GCWR of the truck is 20,000

Max trailer load 13,600 (seems low to me)

Truck weighs 6868 loaded (people hitch fuel dog tools stuff)

I've read so much on this I think I may have confused myself along the way. Numbers don't lie, but am I adding the right numbers !!! I don't see how I can't pull this thing safely though, it's a sub 10k trailer. Anyone out there with a like truck/trailer combo have any input ? Shoot I'll take any input at this point driving myself nuts here and of course the wife's "all about" this one ..,.

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  • KoJackz's avatar
    KoJackz
    Explorer
    Feb 27, 2017
    Those number are from the truck itself. I do have to weigh to be exact on the truck weight loaded one kid my wife dog tools and fuel hitch aren't going to be more than 800-900lbs but I'll bet I'm within 100lbs .... the gawr id defiantly need the scale for but the trucks rated at 6084 so I'm gonna say even if the trailers max loaded I should def be under .... tires are rated 3415 so should be safe there .... haven't taken delivery yet so I knew I'd be close but now it's beginning to concern me we picked the wrong one !!
  • oilcan1001's avatar
    oilcan1001
    Explorer
    Feb 27, 2017
    I just went through all this myself to make sure I'm keeping within all applicable load limits.

    1 - make sure your GVWR & GAWR are from the tag on the truck. You will find this inside the drivers door jamb. This way you start with the correct numbers (I found a couple VIN data sites that gave different weight ratings than my mfr tag)

    2 - your max trailer load sounds about right because if you add the weight of your truck you will be over the GCWR.

    3 - the only way to get actual weights is to go to CAT scales and weight truck only, then weigh truck and trailer. The CAT scale will weigh each axle independently

    4 - don't forget to check the weight rating of your truck tires to make sure they will handle ALL the weight of the truck & trailer
  • artman's avatar
    artman
    Explorer
    Feb 27, 2017
    I have same basic setup
    Truck seems a little light is that scale weight ? diesel ?

    I am over my gvwr on the truck and close to my gawr.

    But i have just under 50K on my 04 so I really hate to change trucks.

    I figure at least higher rated tires are in my future
  • Racine96's avatar
    Racine96
    Explorer
    Feb 27, 2017
    I had a 2500 Silverado 2014 HD 6.0 gasser. It struggled on the hills. I don't think you would be safe. Can it pull it? Yes, but not very safe. MHO
  • Old-Biscuit's avatar
    Old-Biscuit
    Explorer III
    Feb 27, 2017
    Truck weight with 'cargo' 6868#
    Truck GVWR 9200#

    Leaves 2332# total.

    That 09 5th wheel has a dry weight of 9125#
    That 09 5th wheel has a dry pin weight of 1955# almost a 22% pin weight ratio

    Take that 9125 dry weight add 1500# (water, propane, food, clothes etc)
    10,625# at 22% ----2338# which goes directly on rear axle
    That 2332# total was for trucks GVWR....both axles/suspension etc not just rear axle

    2500s run out of payload quickly.....as you can see yours gets used up fast

    Only saving feature is you should be under RAWR and Rear Tire Max Load Ratings plus GCVWR
    Right at trucks GVWR/possibly slightly over---which I don't consider an issue provided RAWR/Tire Ratings are good

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