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DadoPax's avatar
DadoPax
Explorer
Feb 18, 2017

Is this safe?

My TV is a 2013 F-150 ecoboost supercrew

available payload when loaded to camp: 1160
tow: 11300
hitch: 1100
gear: 3.73
wb: 145"

TH is Vengeance 23FB13

sticker weight on lot: 6100
gvwr: 11,000
hitch: 876
length: 28'6"

toy is 1000lbs.
gas station is behind rear axle.
i never use fresh water tanks as i never dry camp.

so my payload is the issue. i could free up 200lbs having the lady and kid drive separate when they come.

estimated full weight of TH is 7500lbs, set tongue weight to 12% using WDH puts 900lbs on payload. WDH is probably 100lbs, so I am at max payload.

if i set WDH to 10% I free up another 150lbs... but afraid of sway.

all thoughts welcome!
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  • fj12ryder's avatar
    fj12ryder
    Explorer III
    Feb 18, 2017
    My thought would be if you're worried enough to have the wife and kids drive in a separate vehicle to save a couple hundred pounds, you're too close to the edge.
  • DadoPax's avatar
    DadoPax
    Explorer
    Feb 18, 2017
    donn0128 wrote:
    Your basing hitch weight on the advertised dry weight. Calculate it at trailers GVWR and try again. Personally it's something I would not attempt or recomend


    I was basing hitch weight on 12% of the estimated loaded trailer weight.
  • DadoPax's avatar
    DadoPax
    Explorer
    Feb 18, 2017
    Ivylog wrote:
    The other problem is trailers have a way of growing over time.


    so do trucks haha
  • Ivylog's avatar
    Ivylog
    Explorer III
    Feb 18, 2017
    Welcome to the forums... plenty of "weight police" on here and based on your answer above, which I liked, you might not be driven off this forum. Unlike most 8-10 percent tongue weight is enough for me so yes I would try it with what you have. That said, that's a lot of trailer for your SuperCrew... the tail may wag the dog when being passed by a 18 wheeler. The other problem is trailers have a way of growing over time.

    If you have room to move your 1000 lbs around you can adjust your tongue weight.
  • donn0128's avatar
    donn0128
    Explorer II
    Feb 18, 2017
    Your basing hitch weight on the advertised dry weight. Calculate it at trailers GVWR and try again. Personally it's something I would not attempt or recomend
  • DadoPax's avatar
    DadoPax
    Explorer
    Feb 18, 2017
    arhayes wrote:
    You didn't say if this a trailer or 5ver. If a 5ver, I can tell you the pin weight will wind up being more than stated on he sticker when your loaded. While ours is much bigger than what your looking at, the stated pin weight is 3600 lbs and we weigh in when loaded at 4200 lbs, so you might allow a little more in your calculation.


    I guess I assumed they don't make WDH for 5th wheel?

    Its a bumper pull
  • arhayes's avatar
    arhayes
    Explorer
    Feb 18, 2017
    You didn't say if this a trailer or 5ver. If a 5ver, I can tell you the pin weight will wind up being more than stated on he sticker when your loaded. While ours is much bigger than what your looking at, the stated pin weight is 3600 lbs and we weigh in when loaded at 4200 lbs, so you might allow a little more in your calculation.

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