I have a 2005 Keystone Raptor 5th wheel toy hauler. I plan to keep most (if not all) of my travels in Texas and Louisiana. I know and understand the laws governing firearms in these two states. I want to install a gun safe in garage. I plan to live in my RV so safe will contain all my (20+ long and handguns) firearms. Does anyone make a good gunsafe for RV's? Any issues with installing them in toy hauler? Thanks.

Lot of weight. Most larger gun safes are going to weigh at least 600 pounds. Bolting that to one side might throw your weight balance out of kilter.

For "20+", are you kidding? That's a REAL gun safe size, and a medium big one. You might find a cheap steel one but you will probably need at least two. A real gun safe that size will probably weigh 400-600lb.+ empty. My SIL just bought one that might handle that inventory and it weighs about 550lb., and the weight alone kept him from installing it upstairs in the house. I doubt your floor is rated anywhere near that weight for such a small footprint

Oops. My bad. It does not necessarily have to be a safe. But at least a good metal cabinet that securely locks. However I do have a safe in the house, that holds them all and weighs in around 175 pounds. It is not a class one safe. I am not interested in that. Hoping to find easy to install and maybe lighter option than what I already have.Also I am concerned about the difficulty and feasibility of bolting the safe to the floor. I have not yet looked to see what may be in the way under the floor. That may blow the whole idea. Although this is the only reason for me getting a toy hauler. My toys are the guns. I don't own toys with wheels. The garage is a space for bolting down the safe and carrying weight of the guns. I don't hoard ammo. I just keep a little for target shooting around. So ammo weight is not such a big issue, since I don't have thousands of rounds. Anyone else out there have experience installing/using gun safe in toy hauler?

As has been mentioned, the floor loading is going to be prohibitive, Even if it wasn't, the weight distribution would really throw things off unless placed directly on the centerline. Your best security needs to start with OPSEC. No NRA or other bumper stickers or logos on your tow vehicle or toy hauler. Get some generic cases that can be used to take them from the trailer to the truck - an instrument case might even be a good choice. If people don't know they are there, they don't know the payoff potential of your trailer. They prefer knowing their effort will be worth something. Do you have an alarm system on the entry doors to your RV? Something loud enough to attract attention. I'd also recommend looking at the windows in the garage, as well as the ramp door. Of course, make sure you always use the deadbolt on the doors when you leave. Bad guys don't like to have to take a lot of time to get in, especially if the payoff is questionable. Anything that makes them spend more time getting in makes your trailer less of a target. Do you have any lights under the trailer? I mention that because they will cause anyone messing around your trailer to appear in silhouette - meaning that they will really stand out. Bad guys don't want to be seen. We have some downward-facing blue LED's under ours that don't intrude on other campsites, but add this element of security. All of the above combine to make your trailer less attractive to someone, make it take longer to get into, and then really attract attention if they breach the physical security layer. In an RV, given the floor loading and other concerns, having them concealed is your best bet. Does the toy hauler have a compartment under the floor in the garage? Does the bed flip up? Is there a closet? Is there a concealment method available for storing them? If you really want to put in a "safe", I'd consider one of the green, lightweight Stack-On cabinets https://www.amazon.com/Stack-GCDG-9216-Convertible-Double-Door-Security/dp/B002TOKR3U/ref=sr_1_33/166-4258620-1584413?s=hunting-fishing&ie=UTF8&qid=1477072430&sr=1-33&refinements=p_4%3AStack-On . They can be bolted down, and will take a bit of effort to open. Combined with all of the previous elements, they most likely won't want to stick around long enough to breach that secondary physical layer. That's about the best you can do in a trailer.

Check out gun safes at Walmart.....on-line not store16 gun (rifle/shotguns etc) safe under $400 and safe weighs 168#OR buy 2 smaller capacity and mount on opposite wallsLOTS of options and many ON SALE right now.I also had a large collection of weapons ----sold some (Bows, large bore hunting rifles, some single action revolvers/lever action rifle ---cowboy shooting, small bore rifles etc) prior to hitting the road FT.But there were many handguns/rifles/shotgun that were 'special' and no way was I going to sell them off.I didn't use a standup safe in my 5th wheel when we went FT.Some handguns went into a long flat metal lock box that required removing bottom chest drawer to access (keep sake guns)Rifles/shotguns went in underbed storage area.Course some handguns were readily accessible :BThing is..........RVs are NOT secure. Cheap door locks/easily broken into.Large windows that can be used as entry.Thief wants in they can easily get in.So I had high personal property homeowners insurance coverage in case of loss.Sure it would have been a real bummer ----- many of my weapons were passed on from my DAD, some are high valued Brands/Models hard to replace etc.But they were fully insured.A good gun safe (such as ones at Walmart) are difficult to break into and bolted down hard to remove so they can be a deterrent to common thieves.

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allcool
Explorer
Oct 26, 2016
don1911 wrote:

Where can I buy some of these?

Seems they have changed a little over the years since I got mine. And harder to find. Looks like the new ones are all steel construction and 7.25" deep.

Try here...

http://www.parts-unlimited.com/products/?productId=409009#group260741
http://asset.lemansnet.com/static/sites/partsunlimited/flipper/2017_snow/#?page=704
fly-boy
Explorer
Oct 25, 2016
don1911 wrote:
allcool wrote:
These mount in beaver-tail of TH. They are big and would work if you can set up a rack system inside them to hold each gun safely to avoid damage to them. And maybe make a ammo compartment in side of one box also...

They aren't gunsafe thick metal, but pretty heavy duty and they do have a locking mechanism. The real theft deterrent would be to have them under the carpet out of site with your SxS on top of them..?

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My trailer came with one big one that runs across the width of the garage- However, the bottom is just a plastic tub. For sure you would want to install a metal shroud to protect some road hazard from ripping the bottom of the tub out and leaving your guns on the road behind you.

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Where can I buy some of these?
don1911
Explorer
Oct 25, 2016
allcool wrote:
These mount in beaver-tail of TH. They are big and would work if you can set up a rack system inside them to hold each gun safely to avoid damage to them. And maybe make a ammo compartment in side of one box also...

They aren't gunsafe thick metal, but pretty heavy duty and they do have a locking mechanism. The real theft deterrent would be to have them under the carpet out of site with your SxS on top of them..?

Click Here

Mod Edit: Trying to fix photo, turned into link.

Where can I buy some of these?
fly-boy
Explorer
Oct 24, 2016
I don't think I would ever be comfortable leaving 20 of my guns behind in the TH. I think I would take a few at a time and just leave the rest with my son and have him send and receive as I needed different things.

If you are anything like me most of those guns are just gonna sit and get shot once or twice a year... I have two long guns that I get 90 plus percent of my big game rifle hunting (I prefer the bow) done with and two shotguns I use regularly. The rest are for fun...

One storage option would be a heavy duty job box which you could leave in the back of the truck or in the garage... Just keep the guns in bags or buildout some shelves in the box...
Another thought is to build a safe or stack on box into/under the couch.
RideSlow
Explorer
Oct 24, 2016
False wall, if you have a actual garage? Lots of good ideas here, I am working on different locks for all the common compartments. Haven't yet decided how to gun safe yet.
dedmiston
Moderator
Oct 22, 2016
What's your floor plan look like? Do you have room for a used deep freezer? Put a hasp lock on it.
allcool
Explorer
Oct 22, 2016
These mount in beaver-tail of TH. They are big and would work if you can set up a rack system inside them to hold each gun safely to avoid damage to them. And maybe make a ammo compartment in side of one box also...

They aren't gunsafe thick metal, but pretty heavy duty and they do have a locking mechanism. The real theft deterrent would be to have them under the carpet out of site with your SxS on top of them..?

Click Here

Mod Edit: Trying to fix photo, turned into link.
don1911
Explorer
Oct 22, 2016
deltabravo wrote:
Lots of companyies make steel gun cabinets with locking door.

I wouldn't want my guns to be the subject of bouncing an shaking around against each other in the cabinet, anywhere in an RV though.

I agree. Good point. I considered this and bought padded cases for each gun. Each gun will be in its own padded case while inside the RV, regardless of whether it is in safe or not.
deltabravo
Nomad
Oct 22, 2016
Lots of companyies make steel gun cabinets with locking door.

I wouldn't want my guns to be the subject of bouncing an shaking around against each other in the cabinet, anywhere in an RV though.
BigDogF250
Explorer
Oct 21, 2016
Does price matter? You can look at things like in bed / bunk / sofa safes like this one: http://bedgunsafe.com/concealed-safes/

You could have a custom one built from aluminum into a bed / under bed or coffee table if you are full timing. I'm sure you can find a local fab guy looking for the work. Wrap in wood and you are in business. It's just for storage so orientation isn't that big of a deal, and the difference between aluminum and steel won't matter, both will stop a grab and go thief. A real thief will just steal the trailer...

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