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Melcassie's avatar
Melcassie
Explorer
Dec 15, 2025

Is this safe?

This is our First RV and we just bought the truck this week! We’ve not officially bought this RV but it’s the one we put a deposit on  it seems we would be like 800 or more over weight  

So we have a F350 XL SRW Diesel.  
4 -Wheel Drive 
3.55 Gears/Axle
17”Wheels 
Payload Sticker -3511.00 lbs 

We’re wanting to tow: 44 FT 

2019 Heartland Cyclone 4005 
Dry Weight -16,700 lbs 
Loaded Max weight- 20,000 lbs 
Dry Tongue Weight - 3540 lbs 
Loaded Tongue Weight - approximately-4200 lbs 

We’ve heard differnt things yes it’s fine, It’s close, and load the back to take pressure off hitch. I’m ready to pull my hair out. Is this safe? Will it ruin the truck? Would insurance cover it if it’s exceeding the pay load? 
 

Thank y’all.

9 Replies

  • I am another that isn't afrade to run a little over, but that is 700lbs plus the people /pets inside and anything else you put in the truck and does you wet hitch weight include the weight of the 5th wheel hitch?  in reality you probably would have that truck overloaded 1200 to 1500 lbs when all is said and done as the factory listed hitch weights are never right.  for example mine was listed at 2200lbs it came in at 2950lbs.  also when they say loaded, that is probably on a base modle with no options whats so ever and loaded with what, do they have any extra batteries in the front compartment and so on......  take thoes with a grain of salt from the manufacture they are are lighter then they end up being.  

    • Grit_dog's avatar
      Grit_dog
      Navigator III

      I’m gonna go with hit n run first post then ghost for this thread. 
      Starting by buying the vehicle when you already know you want a bigger towable than it could/should handle and the aura of someone who’s jumping into something that would require a CDL if commercial while exuding very little knowledge or experience….says they’re back to the drawing board. 

      • StirCrazy's avatar
        StirCrazy
        Moderator

        ya most one and done's are because they don't hear what they want to hear right away.  most of them are looking for validation not to be told what they are doing or want to do is not the best idea.  

  • Like Grit_dog, I do not claim to be among the weight cops. But I quite agree with him on this one. That is a capable truck, but the trailer is too much for it, especially as equipped, but I suspect regardless of mods you might make. You are not merely 700 lbs over payload, you are 700 lbs PLUS THE WEIGHT OF PASSENGERS and any other "stuff" you might have on board. Assuming just mom & pop, no kiddos, you are looking at 1100 lbs over, probably more. The towing experience will suck bigly, especially for an inexperienced driver, and yes, it will eventually damage the truck, and yes, probably unsafe, and might indeed cause issues with insurance, should (heaven forbid) there be an accident.

    I highly recommend going with a trailer within the capacity of the truck. Remember, trailer sales people routinely lie that a customer's truck can handle a given trailer. They care only about making the sale, not about the customer's experience later. So much so, that there is a dark joke about it: Do you know how to tell if a sales person it lying? Their lips are moving.

  • I’m far from being an internet weight cop and with that said, you will be right at the practical limits of a srw truck and of course well over payload rating. 
    A few things to consider. This being your first camper and your inexperience at towing much less towing basically a semi trailer, and your perceived lack of understanding, it sounds like a horrible idea from here. 
    17” wheels = base model truck and the tires are surely not up to that weight rating. At a minimum I’d be somewhere between some heavy rated 18s or 20s rims and appropriately rated tires. Or 19.5s. 
    If you’re experienced, equip the truck right and keeper out of the mountains it’s semi reasonably doable imo. But not with how the truck is currently equipped. 
    And I with more knowledge and experience wouldn’t even want to tow that thing with that truck on any significant grades or curves. 

    • blt2ski's avatar
      blt2ski
      Moderator

      Grit,

      You hit the 1 post hit-n-run correct.
      Not knowing the year of the truck is no help either, along with actual suspension and tare wieght.

      Reality, ANY dual 6K or lightly loaded 7K axle trailer with 2500 or less lbs of hitch weight/11 to 12K on axles, OP will be fine. Anything above and beyond that, the chassis will more than likely be overloaded. Along with bottoming out on dips, speed bumps etc
      Assuming a reasonably new ie last 5 years old model, more HP/Torque/gears than they will ever need with the trailer size I mentioned.

      Have a happy new year all.

      Marty

      • Popspastime's avatar
        Popspastime
        Explorer

        I'd look for another trailer with a lesser hitch weight. Your going to be way over your Payload and it's not designed to carry that weight.