Ok so the deal on the KZ fell thru,very disappointing,but the wife and I are the kind if it was meant to be it would have happened. I know it seems that we might be all over the place but we have decided to buy used for now and try to have no payments. Our dream toy hauler is the Road Warrior RW 427 but financially it doesn't work. So we will wait a few years. So that being said we came across a 2008 Rage'n Stryker 4005, it too is in good ship and seams built well. Not to excited about shower in master bedroom but it's pretty big, other than that the floor plan works for us and the wife is happy with it. So any input on this?? Good or bad Should know Monday if they accept our offer, once again I want to thank everyone that has given their input for us!! Will let you know how things progress!