Maybe overweight???

Me Again wrote:

Francesca Knowles wrote:

Kennedycamper wrote:
GVWR doesn't mean much. Registered Gross weight is what the police look at.

:h

At least here in Washington State, "GVWR" is the number used for registering vehicles/trailers.

Francesca you are wrong!

Chris

OOPS- not the first time, or the last.... just got done with a bunch of paperwork for some rigs covered under this provision for commercial setups and I guess certain details were still stuck in my head.

But they're all gone now! :B

Francesca Knowles wrote:

Kennedycamper wrote:
GVWR doesn't mean much. Registered Gross weight is what the police look at.

:h

At least here in Washington State, "GVWR" is the number used for registering vehicles/trailers.

Francesca you are wrong! In Washington State pickups are register at 1.5 times the tare weight rounded up to the next even thousand pounds. So my Pickup Truck is register for 12,000 pounds and I have to pay tonnage based on that amount. Travel trailers are just $36.75. Truck happens to have a 8800 GVWR, but the state could care less. GVWR is not used at all on pickups or trailers.

From FAQs on wa.gov:

Why Do I Need A Scale Weight And Where Do I Get One?

All trucks in Washington, no matter how large or small, carry gross weight. Gross weight or tonnage is a combination of the weight of the truck plus it’s potential load. Tonnage is sold in 2000 lb increments beginning at 4000 lbs. For example, if your truck weighs 4600 lbs empty, and you want to carry ? ton of firewood, you’d purchase 6000 lbs tonnage. This would leave you 400 lbs for yourself, your buddy and your gear. Licensing fees for all trucks are based on this gross weight combination. A truck coming into Washington from another State needs an empty scale weight reflected on the new title. Scale weight tickets are available at any certified scale, found at lumberyards, seed mills, or grain elevators. These are private businesses and may charge a fee for this service.

And the person that wrote this FAQ failed math. 4600 lb vehicle and a ton of firewood would require a 8000 pound license.


Washington license fees.
http://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/fees.html

Chris

Florida tag price is based on the GVWR as provided by the manufacturer.

Kennedycamper wrote:
GVWR doesn't mean much. Registered Gross weight is what the police look at.

Actually a registered gross weight doesn't get you anything other than your states LEO/tax folks/tag office/etc off your back for having your vehicle registered at the proper weight/tonnage/ladin/etc.

My state and others don't have a weight we have to register our private use trucks at nor do we have weighted tags to purchase so we simply carry weight determined by the trucks axle/tires. Our LEOs don't know each and every states registration rates or care if you have the proper weighted tag or registration or not.

This is a partial quote from a CA size and weight commander when asked if states have laws against carrying weight above GVWR or GCWR;

"The California Vehicle Code (CVC) does not contain a law that
specifically limits the amount of weight a vehicle may tow based on the towing vehicle GVWR or GCWR. There are, however, laws that limit the amount a vehicle may tow based on other criteria.
(snipped)
... California Code of Regulations prohibits the loading of tires above the maximum load rating marked on the tire, or if unmarked the maximum load rating as specified in the applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard, or in a publication furnished to the public by the tire manufacturer. This would most likely happen in
the case of a pickup truck towing a large fifth wheel travel trailer, as those types of trailers tend to transfer a larger portion of their
weight to the last axle of the towing unit causing that axle to exceed
the tire load limits."

Kennedycamper wrote:
GVWR doesn't mean much. Registered Gross weight is what the police look at.

:h

At least here in Washington State, "GVWR" is the number used for registering vehicles/trailers.

GVWR doesn't mean much. Registered Gross weight is what the police look at.

rmalik1 wrote:
I would recommend that everyone should go to Livingston TX and have the Escapees do the Smart-weight. You'll know if your a danger to yourself and all vehicles on the road.

It's also relatively cheap!

Relative to what? Livingston, Texas is a l-o-o-o-n-g way from....everywhere! :@

I would recommend that everyone should go to Livingston TX and have the Escapees do the Smart-weight. You'll know if your a danger to yourself and all vehicles on the road.

It's also relatively cheap!

Me Again wrote:

Say what? I thought this was about Tow Vehicles?

Chris

You want to call me Calvin but know little about me. I've always used a truck as a tow vehicle. We started out with a 1980 Nissan RB next was the 1985 Nissan KC our first diesel was a 1990 Isuzu LB. The first AT was a 1997 Ford Range. Along came ocean fishing an a big Deep-V and with it our first big truck, a 1999 Dodge dually with an auto trans and Cummins power, noisy truck. After starting full time RVing we moved up to our current Tow Vehicle, the 2004 Dodge CT with 4.10 and auto trans. Its a LB, CC and more than enough truck for our 14.1K GVWR fiver.

Silver 1999 Dodge at NAS Jacksonville

FastEagle

FastEagle wrote:
After reading this thread I wonder why someone doesn't start a pole on the term (acronym) GVWR? Is it or is it not a limiting factor?

There are legal ways to increase your trailer's GVWR. You can make structural changes that, when approved, will increase the trailer's GVWR. Then you have to find a person (or company/dealer/manufacturer) certified to modify your trailer's certification label reflecting the changes and the amount of additional GVWR accomplished with the changes.

That's the right way. Most will live with what they have, or overload it, or bite the bullet and get a bigger trailer and restart the process all over again.

What? Cyn.... what?

JCO is getting to me.....

FastEagle

Say what? I thought this was about Tow Vehicles?

Chris