New Blue Ox Bed Saver

ependydad wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
It was a serious question. I can't think of a reason to pin the handle in the open position with a B&W. Is there a reason?

When unhitching, the B&W instructions say to pin the handle open.

The guy (in the other thread) did that, later went to hookup and didn't notice his handle was pinned open (nor did he close the handle). When he went to pull forward, he dropped the fiver.

Still don't see why?????

I open my handle and drive away.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
It was a serious question. I can't think of a reason to pin the handle in the open position with a B&W. Is there a reason?

When unhitching, the B&W instructions say to pin the handle open.

The guy (in the other thread) did that, later went to hookup and didn't notice his handle was pinned open (nor did he close the handle). When he went to pull forward, he dropped the fiver.

up2nogood wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

up2nogood wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
There is an individual on another thread who says he dropped his 5er using a B&W hitch. He had the handle latched back so it couldn't close, hooked up, and then pulled forward without unlocking the handle. It can happen, but you really have to work at it. But then operating under that assumption you should have an alarm so you don't forget to put your slides in before driving off. :)

The thing that gets us fan-boys aggravated is the assumption that the B&W hitch can be mis-hitched and the 5er dropped. That can't happen, but yes, a person can have a brain fart and not allow the hitch to close.

FWIW you can forget to put the pin in the handle and you still won't drop the trailer. BTDT. The 5th wheel pin will not pull out of the jaws. When the jaws close and the handle swings to the rear the hitch is locked. Putting the pin in will keep someone from pulling the handle, but the hitch is solid even if you forget to put the pin in. I drove all the way out of the campground, down the road to the interstate before I saw it was not pinned. No problem, I went back, swung the handle and put the pin in.

Yes, I'm a B&W fan-boy and proud of it. :)

How to you figure one drops a fifth wheel, they have a brain fart as you say , is leaving the hitch locked in the open position not a mis-hitch as you call it. You can ,and will drop a fifth wheel with a B & W if you leave the hitch open, how else besides a high hitch do you think a fifth wheel will come loose. What comes to mind for me is leaving the hitch in the open position.

Not sure why anyone would pin a B&W in the open position??????

Why would anyone do anything to cause a drop **** happens !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was a serious question. I can't think of a reason to pin the handle in the open position with a B&W. Is there a reason?

Splashers3 wrote:
So I guess most of you folks poo-pooing the bedsaver are also foregoing insurance for your trailer, house, medical, and vehicles?

One hopes they never need it.

Mine is insured. Just not double and triple insured :B

Cummins12V98 wrote:

up2nogood wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
There is an individual on another thread who says he dropped his 5er using a B&W hitch. He had the handle latched back so it couldn't close, hooked up, and then pulled forward without unlocking the handle. It can happen, but you really have to work at it. But then operating under that assumption you should have an alarm so you don't forget to put your slides in before driving off. :)

The thing that gets us fan-boys aggravated is the assumption that the B&W hitch can be mis-hitched and the 5er dropped. That can't happen, but yes, a person can have a brain fart and not allow the hitch to close.

FWIW you can forget to put the pin in the handle and you still won't drop the trailer. BTDT. The 5th wheel pin will not pull out of the jaws. When the jaws close and the handle swings to the rear the hitch is locked. Putting the pin in will keep someone from pulling the handle, but the hitch is solid even if you forget to put the pin in. I drove all the way out of the campground, down the road to the interstate before I saw it was not pinned. No problem, I went back, swung the handle and put the pin in.

Yes, I'm a B&W fan-boy and proud of it. :)

How to you figure one drops a fifth wheel, they have a brain fart as you say , is leaving the hitch locked in the open position not a mis-hitch as you call it. You can ,and will drop a fifth wheel with a B & W if you leave the hitch open, how else besides a high hitch do you think a fifth wheel will come loose. What comes to mind for me is leaving the hitch in the open position.

Not sure why anyone would pin a B&W in the open position??????

Why would anyone do anything to cause a drop **** happens !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

up2nogood wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
There is an individual on another thread who says he dropped his 5er using a B&W hitch. He had the handle latched back so it couldn't close, hooked up, and then pulled forward without unlocking the handle. It can happen, but you really have to work at it. But then operating under that assumption you should have an alarm so you don't forget to put your slides in before driving off. :)

The thing that gets us fan-boys aggravated is the assumption that the B&W hitch can be mis-hitched and the 5er dropped. That can't happen, but yes, a person can have a brain fart and not allow the hitch to close.

FWIW you can forget to put the pin in the handle and you still won't drop the trailer. BTDT. The 5th wheel pin will not pull out of the jaws. When the jaws close and the handle swings to the rear the hitch is locked. Putting the pin in will keep someone from pulling the handle, but the hitch is solid even if you forget to put the pin in. I drove all the way out of the campground, down the road to the interstate before I saw it was not pinned. No problem, I went back, swung the handle and put the pin in.

Yes, I'm a B&W fan-boy and proud of it. :)

How to you figure one drops a fifth wheel, they have a brain fart as you say , is leaving the hitch locked in the open position not a mis-hitch as you call it. You can ,and will drop a fifth wheel with a B & W if you leave the hitch open, how else besides a high hitch do you think a fifth wheel will come loose. What comes to mind for me is leaving the hitch in the open position.

Not sure why anyone would pin a B&W in the open position??????

fj12ryder wrote:
There is an individual on another thread who says he dropped his 5er using a B&W hitch. He had the handle latched back so it couldn't close, hooked up, and then pulled forward without unlocking the handle. It can happen, but you really have to work at it. But then operating under that assumption you should have an alarm so you don't forget to put your slides in before driving off. :)

The thing that gets us fan-boys aggravated is the assumption that the B&W hitch can be mis-hitched and the 5er dropped. That can't happen, but yes, a person can have a brain fart and not allow the hitch to close.

FWIW you can forget to put the pin in the handle and you still won't drop the trailer. BTDT. The 5th wheel pin will not pull out of the jaws. When the jaws close and the handle swings to the rear the hitch is locked. Putting the pin in will keep someone from pulling the handle, but the hitch is solid even if you forget to put the pin in. I drove all the way out of the campground, down the road to the interstate before I saw it was not pinned. No problem, I went back, swung the handle and put the pin in.

Yes, I'm a B&W fan-boy and proud of it. :)

How to you figure one drops a fifth wheel, they have a brain fart as you say , is leaving the hitch locked in the open position not a mis-hitch as you call it. You can ,and will drop a fifth wheel with a B & W if you leave the hitch open, how else besides a high hitch do you think a fifth wheel will come loose. What comes to mind for me is leaving the hitch in the open position.

I agree - most pin drops are/will be the result of human error... and at last check I am human and therefore choose to provide extra protection at a cost. As pointed out, no different than insurance.

The B&W does look like a good hitch, no question. Not what we have but still a good hitch.

So I guess most of you folks poo-pooing the bedsaver are also foregoing insurance for your trailer, house, medical, and vehicles?

One hopes they never need it.

There is an individual on another thread who says he dropped his 5er using a B&W hitch. He had the handle latched back so it couldn't close, hooked up, and then pulled forward without unlocking the handle. It can happen, but you really have to work at it. But then operating under that assumption you should have an alarm so you don't forget to put your slides in before driving off. :)

The thing that gets us fan-boys aggravated is the assumption that the B&W hitch can be mis-hitched and the 5er dropped. That can't happen, but yes, a person can have a brain fart and not allow the hitch to close.

FWIW you can forget to put the pin in the handle and you still won't drop the trailer. BTDT. The 5th wheel pin will not pull out of the jaws. When the jaws close and the handle swings to the rear the hitch is locked. Putting the pin in will keep someone from pulling the handle, but the hitch is solid even if you forget to put the pin in. I drove all the way out of the campground, down the road to the interstate before I saw it was not pinned. No problem, I went back, swung the handle and put the pin in.

Yes, I'm a B&W fan-boy and proud of it. :)