New tires

kedanie wrote:


All that has been asked is for you to quote the actual LAW in regards to tire replacement. So far all you do is dance around the subject with tire company brochures and double talk and have produced absolutely ZERO in the way of applicable LAWS.

Stop all the BS and post it or just move on.

Keith

If I was to post anything from a law firm you would find a way to discredit it with a lot of acronym superlatives.

FE

What are you doing in here anyway? You don't have an RV trailer. Does your motorhome have ST tires?

Me Again wrote:

Have you ever been into a commercial tire shop to find out what they think of cheap ST tires for their customers?

Oh, no! Was that Calvin that landed in the middle of the street on his ear?

Chris

Yep, I was in Discount Tire just last week. Got a roofing nail dead center in a Bridgestone tire on my wife's SUV. Asked them to put a patch/plug in it and then change it out with the full sized spare. Asked them to balance it in accordance with the Bridgestone Red/yellow dot technology. None of them knew what I was talking about and the manager said that was just not used by anybody. Well, I got them to air-up the flat and went down the road a few miles to the Bridgestone tire store where they were more than happy to do just what I had asked of Discount Tire.

FE

FastEagle wrote:

Me Again wrote:

larry barnhart wrote:
I am getting real tired of the tire story. I know I don't have to read it because nothing has changed since it started.
chevman who does not buy cheap tires

Larry you are correct, we have been around and around with Calvin for years, as he pushes cheap ST tires on the un-informed any and all ways he can.

Chris

Post some references Chris. It would put validity to your endless post about my so-called agenda.

FE

Calvin, this is the big reason I do not post about my knowledge or experience with tires over the last 45 years, too many experts on here that do not know how to listen, and think they know it all. I understand your agenda, they do not.

BeerCan wrote:
FE,
A tire company service bulletin has nothing to do with tire regulations. Those TSB's are put out so tech's and end users don't put some asinine sized tire on a vehicle.

Wouldn't it depend on the background information that supports their bulletin. .

FE

Me Again wrote:

larry barnhart wrote:
I am getting real tired of the tire story. I know I don't have to read it because nothing has changed since it started.
chevman who does not buy cheap tires

Larry you are correct, we have been around and around with Calvin for years, as he pushes cheap ST tires on the un-informed any and all ways he can.

Chris

Post some references Chris. It would put validity to your endless post about my so-called agenda.

FE

kedanie wrote:
Your's or my military service has nothing to do with the topic and believe me, there is more to my life that you don't know and I won't and can't tell you. How dare you call me anti-establishment!!!! Now you are treading on grounds that might get you into just a little trouble.

All that has been asked is for you to quote the actual LAW in regards to tire replacement. So far all you do is dance around the subject with tire company brochures and double talk and have produced absolutely ZERO in the way of applicable LAWS.

Stop all the BS and post it or just move on.

Keith

Why? Do you think it's something like a shill?

You are an Up-Start and I've taken your BS too long. From now on when you pass it out it's going to come right back. That's just a fact. If you cant write these post of yours in a constructive criticism fashion what is your point for posting?

FE

FastEagle wrote:


And what you fail to recognize is the validity of government regulations. I’m a little surprised at that because you spent enough time in the military to come to terms with regulations. Maybe you just became antiestablishment after your military service. Well, thanks for that service. I also served over there on aircraft carriers. Almost all of 1965 and again from 1970 - 1973. During that time I spent some time at Bien Hoa, Da Nang, and Tan Son Hnut (Saigon) repairing combat damages on Naval & Marine Corp Aircraft. One of my most memorable experiences was to observe an USAF SSGT wearing matching pearl handle .45 Cal. Revolvers while driving a jet fuel truck right up to an unfriendly fence at Bien Hoi to service an aircraft I was working on that had over-run the runway with a couple of hung 2000 pounders.

Anyhow, back to this regulation thing. When there is a current and active regulation on the books it can only be deleted or superseded. There is such a document that sets the precedence for replacement tire selections. In the past I’ve referenced that regulation with sound disapproval from all of the naysayers. It’s still active and has been updated in 2013. Nothing changed. It’s a Code of Federal Regulations Document. NHTSA cannot write around that document. They don’t have the authority. It’s called Vehicle in use Inspection Standards and it has numerous parts. But, one is for vehicles under 10K and another is for vehicles over 10K.

FastEagle

Are these the documents you are talking about? If so the section on tires reads as follows --

49 CFR 570.62 - Tires wrote:
(a) Tread depth. The tread shall be not less than four thirty-seconds of an inch deep on each front tire of any vehicle other than a trailer and not less than two thirty-seconds of an inch on all other tires.
(1) Inspection procedure. For tires with treadwear indicators, check for indicators in any two adjacent major grooves at three locations spaced approximately 120° apart around the circumference of the tire. For tires without treadwear indicators, measure the tread depth with a suitable gauge or scale in two adjacent major grooves at 3 locations spaced approximately 120° apart around the circumference of the tire at the area of greatest wear.
(b) Type. Vehicles should be equipped with tires on the same axle that are matched in construction and tire size designation, and dual tires shall be matched for overall diameter within one-half inch.
(1) Inspection procedure. Examine visually. A mismatch in size and construction between tires on the same axle, or a major deviation from the size recommended by the vehicle or tire manufacturer, is a cause for rejection. On a dual-tire arrangement the diameter of one of the duals must be within one-half inch of the other as measured by a gauge block inserted between the tire and a caliper.
(c) General condition. Tires shall be free from chunking, bumps, knots, or bulges evidencing cord, ply or tread separation from the casing.
(1) Inspection procedure. Examine visually for the conditions indicated.
(d) Damage. Tire cords or belting materials shall not be exposed, either to the naked eye or when cuts on the tire are probed. Reinforcement repairs to the cord body are allowable on tires other than front-mounted tires.
(1) Inspection procedure. Examine visually for the conditions indicated, using a blunt instrument if necessary to probe cuts and abrasions.
(e) Special purpose tires. Tires marked “Not For Highway Use” or “Farm Use Only” or other such restrictions shall not be used on any motor vehicles operating on public highways.
(1) Inspection procedure. Examine visually for tires labeled with specific restrictions.

I fail to see where anything in that document disallows what we are talking about.

Proposed!

Current regs don't allow ST tires on trailers less than 10,000 lbs according to the NHTSA. NHTSA is trying to change regs to allow them.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-03-13/html/2013-05761.htm

So you better take ST tires off your trailer if you want to be legal ;)

larry barnhart wrote:
I am getting real tired of the tire story. I know I don't have to read it because nothing has changed since it started.
chevman who does not buy cheap tires

Larry you are correct, we have been around and around with Calvin for years, as he pushes cheap ST tires on the un-informed any and all ways he can.

Chris