Noob as noob gets. Non commercial class A license?

BoonHauler wrote:

sdetweil wrote:

BoonHauler wrote:
I was under the assumption that once you've passed the written (Non-Comm Class A) test you're issued a 'Permit' and have one year to take the driving test. If you do not do so the 'Permit' expires.

I haven't heard anything about a requirement for having a Non-Comm Class A licensed driver with you, that's a new one on me. And I've researched the subject thoroughly.

Search the Toyhauler sub-forum for this topic, it's been discussed many times.

how you gonna get the trailer there (legally) if you don't have a license? Same thing when I was 16.. someone (with a license) had to drive me to the drivers test location..

I'm specifically talking about CA. Once you have the 'Permit' it's okay to trailer without a class A 'Licensed' driver. Once again, you have 1 year to complete the 'driving' test.

You drive the trailer to the DMV office. Additionally, not all DMV offices are available for this test, only certain ones. In the S.F. Bay Area it's the Fremont Office that handles the Class A drivers tests.

"I'm specifically talking about CA. Once you have the 'permit' it's okay to trailer without a Class A 'Licensed' driver."

*WRONG* !!..:(

*NOT OK*..:(

Although the DMV driving examiner might *not* ask who/where the driver is that's accompanying you (to get to the testing office) while driving with a permit, but the DMV regs clearly state......

Go to the CA DMV Non-commercial Class A check list.
At the bottom of the check list, click the link for more info.

The link takes you to lengthy info - go to, "How to apply for an non-commercial License" - and then to -
Requirements for a noncommercial Class A driver permit"

(Finally) the important quote:
"Once you have completed these requirements, you will be issued a permit.
You can only drive with a person who has a California driver's license in the same class as your permit and meets the age requirements."
End quote.

Simply stated, with a permit - anytime you are towing your trailer (requiring a Class A non-commercial license) - you must have a person with a CA non-commercial Class A license with you.

The DMV examiner may not ask where he/she is, but most CHP officers will..:(


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sdetweil wrote:

BoonHauler wrote:
I was under the assumption that once you've passed the written (Non-Comm Class A) test you're issued a 'Permit' and have one year to take the driving test. If you do not do so the 'Permit' expires.

I haven't heard anything about a requirement for having a Non-Comm Class A licensed driver with you, that's a new one on me. And I've researched the subject thoroughly.

Search the Toyhauler sub-forum for this topic, it's been discussed many times.

how you gonna get the trailer there (legally) if you don't have a license? Same thing when I was 16.. someone (with a license) had to drive me to the drivers test location..

I'm specifically talking about CA. Once you have the 'Permit' it's okay to trailer without a class A 'Licensed' driver. Once again, you have 1 year to complete the 'driving' test.

You drive the trailer to the DMV office. Additionally, not all DMV offices are available for this test, only certain ones. In the S.F. Bay Area it's the Fremont Office that handles the Class A drivers tests.

BoonHauler wrote:
I was under the assumption that once you've passed the written (Non-Comm Class A) test you're issued a 'Permit' and have one year to take the driving test. If you do not do so the 'Permit' expires.

I haven't heard anything about a requirement for having a Non-Comm Class A licensed driver with you, that's a new one on me. And I've researched the subject thoroughly.

Search the Toyhauler sub-forum for this topic, it's been discussed many times.

how you gonna get the trailer there (legally) if you don't have a license? Same thing when I was 16.. someone (with a license) had to drive me to the drivers test location..

I was under the assumption that once you've passed the written (Non-Comm Class A) test you're issued a 'Permit' and have one year to take the driving test. If you do not do so the 'Permit' expires.

I haven't heard anything about a requirement for having a Non-Comm Class A licensed driver with you, that's a new one on me. And I've researched the subject thoroughly.

Search the Toyhauler sub-forum for this topic, it's been discussed many times.

Ed9824v wrote:

Ropdoc wrote:

mrw8i wrote:
I had to take 2 written tests, the Class "C" and the non-commercial Class "A" (same one you will have to take). That was it.

Do they have you do the driving test with your rig ?? I was told yes by others not DMV.

But why is it that the dealer says nothing about this or even ask to see it before you leave the lot? You have to have insurance.

If medical is required, why do I see the drivers that I do. I've seen some that can't even get out of the rig, much less drive it.

Dave

My friend borrowed a flatbed trailer to make the test easier

I asked the Commercial testing facility if I could use a different trailer such as a flat bed gooseneck for the test, and they said yes as long as the trailers GVWR is over 10,000 lbs.

Ropdoc wrote:
now we are talking california only right?

sorry, yes that was in california.

now we are talking california only right?

Ropdoc wrote:

mrw8i wrote:
I had to take 2 written tests, the Class "C" and the non-commercial Class "A" (same one you will have to take). That was it.

Do they have you do the driving test with your rig ?? I was told yes by others not DMV.

But why is it that the dealer says nothing about this or even ask to see it before you leave the lot? You have to have insurance.

If medical is required, why do I see the drivers that I do. I've seen some that can't even get out of the rig, much less drive it.

Dave

My friend borrowed a flatbed trailer to make the test easier

mrw8i wrote:
I had to take 2 written tests, the Class "C" and the non-commercial Class "A" (same one you will have to take). That was it.

Do they have you do the driving test with your rig ?? I was told yes by others not DMV.

But why is it that the dealer says nothing about this or even ask to see it before you leave the lot? You have to have insurance.

If medical is required, why do I see the drivers that I do. I've seen some that can't even get out of the rig, much less drive it.

Dave

Dtank wrote:

rjxj wrote:
It's why my kid moved. Any way to get more money.

Hmmmmmm - maybe a big rig driver shouldn't be required to pass a test for a *commercial* Class A to drive a tractor-trailer combo either!..:S

Nothing to do with chump change fees to the state of CA!

How about *not* allowing drivers to tow heavy trailers without first demonstrating they have the ability/skills to do so?.:S

It's about *other* driver's safety as well as the owner/operator.

If your kid couldn't pass the test, happy to hear he moved elsewhere!.:C

BTW - Texas also requires a Non-Commercial class A.

And, OP - you'll need a medical certificate also.

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Don't think a Medical Certificate is required in California for non-commercial Class A. It's required for a Class B (Motorhome over 40') and a commercial Class A. However, non-commercial Class A requires self-signed form stating he/she is in good health.