Hi guys just joined forum. I sold my 39' class A now doing the truck and 5th wheel. I purchased a 2014 Dodg Ram 3500 diesel short box. I installed the Anderson Ultimate Goose neck hitch. Purchased a 2009 Cardinal 30TS. When I picked up 5th I had to adjust the ball on hitch to highest level and reverse adapter to 5th hitch so adapter was cloaked to 5th. The pin box when doing about a 75 deg turn may hit the bed rail of truck? The fifth is nose high but not to bad. I towed 5th home towed very good. Now I have to raise the 5th to have pin box clear bed rails. Options? Flip leave springs on,5 th or spacer to raise 5th? Anybody have any other suggestions.

Yes, you could move springs to top of axle, but that will make the trailer quite a bit taller. It would help to have a pic of the pin box, where it may make contact. In some cases, there is room to trim pin box, in an upward angle, so as to allow more clearance. Some of them come angled, mine did.Jerry

Some have taken sawzall to the back corners of the pin box mounts as I did to my 2005 Cardinal. Chris

Unless you have already checked, it is likely your axles are already under your springs. As noted above, I would look first at cutting off the lower rear corners of the pin box. A number have already done that as a solution.

You want at least 6" clearance between bed rail and 5vr overhang....more is better BUT you also want to tow level.Flipping axles is usually 1st modification before doing any subframe modsMoving leaf springs to top of axles will gain you 4"-6" depending on axle tube diameter and number of leaf springs

Old-Biscuit wrote:You want at least 6" clearance between bed rail and 5vr overhang....more is better BUT you also want to tow level.Flipping axles is usually 1st modification before doing any subframe modsMoving leaf springs to top of axles will gain you 4"-6" depending on axle tube diameter and number of leaf springsI could cut the pinbox but that would not level my 5th. I made arrangement for a shop to make adjustment. They have done many due to new high trucks! They will check suspension as some have room for adjustments, failing that they will flip the leaf springs, failing that they will raise suspension. I'll let you know which route they took..

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BB_TX
Nomad
Feb 27, 2017
Keep in mind that a lift is going to make a tall trailer even taller. Many 5ers are already several inches over 13' high to the top of the A/C and/or vent covers, so that could put you over 13'-6", and you will certainly need to be more careful about low underpasses. Not to mention a higher step up to the first entry step.
Old-Biscuit
Explorer III
Feb 27, 2017
Jhurk wrote:
Old-Biscuit wrote:
You want at least 6" clearance between bed rail and 5vr overhang....more is better BUT you also want to tow level.

Flipping axles is usually 1st modification before doing any subframe mods

Moving leaf springs to top of axles will gain you 4"-6" depending on axle tube diameter and number of leaf springs

I could cut the pinbox but that would not level my 5th. I made arrangement for a shop to make adjustment. They have done many due to new high trucks! They will check suspension as some have room for adjustments, failing that they will flip the leaf springs, failing that they will raise suspension. I'll let you know which route they took..

IF they end up doing a subframe lift.......make sure that includes cross-member supports and bracing
This one is a 6" lift with 2" cross-member

And IF all that is needed is 2" lift......
Check out LCI Correct Track Kit
Aligns your axles AND adds 2" lift
Jhurk
Explorer
Feb 27, 2017
Old-Biscuit wrote:
You want at least 6" clearance between bed rail and 5vr overhang....more is better BUT you also want to tow level.

Flipping axles is usually 1st modification before doing any subframe mods

Moving leaf springs to top of axles will gain you 4"-6" depending on axle tube diameter and number of leaf springs

I could cut the pinbox but that would not level my 5th. I made arrangement for a shop to make adjustment. They have done many due to new high trucks! They will check suspension as some have room for adjustments, failing that they will flip the leaf springs, failing that they will raise suspension. I'll let you know which route they took..
Old-Biscuit
Explorer III
Feb 27, 2017
You want at least 6" clearance between bed rail and 5vr overhang....more is better BUT you also want to tow level.

Flipping axles is usually 1st modification before doing any subframe mods

Moving leaf springs to top of axles will gain you 4"-6" depending on axle tube diameter and number of leaf springs
BB_TX
Nomad
Feb 27, 2017
Unless you have already checked, it is likely your axles are already under your springs. As noted above, I would look first at cutting off the lower rear corners of the pin box. A number have already done that as a solution.
Me_Again
Explorer III
Feb 27, 2017
Some have taken sawzall to the back corners of the pin box mounts as I did to my 2005 Cardinal. Chris
MFL
Nomad II
Feb 27, 2017
Yes, you could move springs to top of axle, but that will make the trailer quite a bit taller. It would help to have a pic of the pin box, where it may make contact. In some cases, there is room to trim pin box, in an upward angle, so as to allow more clearance. Some of them come angled, mine did.

Jerry

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