X2 on the Cyclone Toy Haulers. I based the pin weight when looking on 20% of the GVWR(15,500)figuring I wouldn't load it to the max and still be OK at less than 3100. Shipping weight was 12,800(actual by sticker). No specs given on the website so all just guessing. Oops. On mine there is nothing behind the axles except the gas tank(30 gal) everything else is in front of the axles, by a min of 3-4'. After getting ready to go camping I weighed it. Lets just say the TV and RV went on a diet. I now have it manageable but I can't carry the usual junk and forget about an auxiliary tank. Put a 700 lb bike in the back and the trailer is at 15,100. Pin abt 3400.
I think they built it with lead sheeting for xray protection.
My 2 cents. If you are shopping for a toy hauler have a late model dually. Unless you want one of the little ones (less than 30') YMMV