Here's a handful of vehicle codes that the Needles CHP office posted to Facebook as a reminder to us CA riders before the season begins.I haven't looked up each of the codes, but it looks like they might have been editorializing about the lighted whips, because they aren't included in the code. I've heard that the state is trying to add them to the code, but that hasn't happened yet.Section 38346 wrote:A person shall not display a flashing or steady burning red or blue warning light on an off-highway motor vehicle except as permitted by Section 21055 or when an extreme hazard exists.Regardless though, remember to ride safe and familiarize yourself with the pertinent regulations. And if you do get pulled over, treat the LEO nicely, because a little respect could help improve the outcome.

Y-Guy wrote:Great reminder Dave!Thanks. Reading between the lines (and the comments), my take-away was, "Don't give the LEOs a reason to pull you over" and "don't be a jerk if they do".

And a reminder to the CHP: CHP has a reputation of violating a driver's Constitutional Civil Rights (Search and Seizure) by pulling over large toy haulers heading to the dunes to check the driver's license status. We all know that motorhomes over 40' and trailers over 15,000 pounds, with CA license plates, require a Class A or B non-CDL endorsement. CHP cannot pull over a toy hauler to check for proper driver's license endorsements but they do. Every cop is taught what is required for a traffic stop and checking a driver's license status is not one of them. An LEO must have Reasonable Suspicion that the driver has done something wrong in order to initiate a traffic stop. A traffic stop to check a driver's license doesn't fall under Reasonable Suspicion.If you are victim of such an activity, get a lawyer and go after the offender. It goes both ways, CHP.

azdryheat wrote:And a reminder to the CHP: CHP has a reputation of violating a driver's Constitutional Civil Rights (Search and Seizure) by pulling over large toy haulers heading to the dunes to check the driver's license status. We all know that motorhomes over 40' and trailers over 15,000 pounds, with CA license plates, require a Class A or B non-CDL endorsement. CHP cannot pull over a toy hauler to check for proper driver's license endorsements but they do. Every cop is taught what is required for a traffic stop and checking a driver's license status is not one of them. An LEO must have Reasonable Suspicion that the driver has done something wrong in order to initiate a traffic stop. A traffic stop to check a driver's license doesn't fall under Reasonable Suspicion.If you are victim of such an activity, get a lawyer and go after the offender. It goes both ways, CHP.Unlike Police or Sheriff Dept, CHP can pull over any vehicle at any time for a safety inspection and don’t need probable cause for the stop.

Aren't some of these specific to ATVs/Razors/Caned Yams?And on like forest roads?I don't have to wear a helmet in my sand rail.Speed laws??? Not in the dunes. :)Unsafe turning movements? Does my drift at 70mph constitute unsafe? LOL

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FireGuard
Explorer II
Sep 26, 2018
azdryheat wrote:
And a reminder to the CHP:

CHP has a reputation of violating a driver's Constitutional Civil Rights (Search and Seizure) by pulling over large toy haulers heading to the dunes to check the driver's license status. We all know that motorhomes over 40' and trailers over 15,000 pounds, with CA license plates, require a Class A or B non-CDL endorsement. CHP cannot pull over a toy hauler to check for proper driver's license endorsements but they do.

Every cop is taught what is required for a traffic stop and checking a driver's license status is not one of them. An LEO must have Reasonable Suspicion that the driver has done something wrong in order to initiate a traffic stop. A traffic stop to check a driver's license doesn't fall under Reasonable Suspicion.

If you are victim of such an activity, get a lawyer and go after the offender. It goes both ways, CHP.

Unlike Police or Sheriff Dept, CHP can pull over any vehicle at any time for a safety inspection and don’t need probable cause for the stop.
azdryheat
Explorer
Sep 25, 2018
And a reminder to the CHP:

CHP has a reputation of violating a driver's Constitutional Civil Rights (Search and Seizure) by pulling over large toy haulers heading to the dunes to check the driver's license status. We all know that motorhomes over 40' and trailers over 15,000 pounds, with CA license plates, require a Class A or B non-CDL endorsement. CHP cannot pull over a toy hauler to check for proper driver's license endorsements but they do.

Every cop is taught what is required for a traffic stop and checking a driver's license status is not one of them. An LEO must have Reasonable Suspicion that the driver has done something wrong in order to initiate a traffic stop. A traffic stop to check a driver's license doesn't fall under Reasonable Suspicion.

If you are victim of such an activity, get a lawyer and go after the offender. It goes both ways, CHP.
dedmiston
Moderator
Sep 25, 2018
Y-Guy wrote:
Great reminder Dave!

Thanks. Reading between the lines (and the comments), my take-away was, "Don't give the LEOs a reason to pull you over" and "don't be a jerk if they do".
Y-Guy
Moderator
Sep 25, 2018
Great reminder Dave!

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