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Carlos___Ranae's avatar
Dec 23, 2014

pros and cons of Heartland RW 420 and Heartland Cyclone 4200

This comming year we will be going on the road from 9 to ten months at the time , The goal is to visit all fourty-nine states a minimum of two weeks, others more.

Nova Scotia, Prince Edwards Isle, Newfoundland and Labrador are high on the DW
List.

Upper penninsual and Calgary are on my list

We will be traveling with four, well behaved Chihuahuas/Pomeranians.

The double patios are perfect for us. As long as the have view of us they do not bark.

Lazydays is a little more expensive than MHSPRV in Texas.

We have not found reviews on these two coaches. Which will hold better? How much will it cost for a tire upgrade to GoodYears G-14 10 plies?

Due to work anf family constrains, I am unable to check this site on a dsily basis. Thank you in advance for your input.
  • Can't help you with specifics of either. But since you are going to be full timing you should be aware of the normal warranty exclusion for full timers. Most all RVs are for recreational use only, living in them full time will often void your warranty.

    I think one of the few brands that builds Toy Haulers, that warranties them for Full-timers use is the Grand Design RV line. Every RV is going to have some issues, selecting a good brand and doing a detailed PDI before you sign for it can help you avoid picking a lemon or one with several issues. But if your warranty is void from the start it's pointless. Just make sure you dig into his aspect and read all of the fine print.

    Grand Design Full-Time Living
  • Carlos & Ranae wrote:
    This comming year we will be going on the road from 9 to ten months at the time , The goal is to visit all fourty-nine states a minimum of two weeks, others more.

    Nova Scotia, Prince Edwards Isle, Newfoundland and Labrador are high on the DW
    List.

    Upper penninsual and Calgary are on my list

    We will be traveling with four, well behaved Chihuahuas/Pomeranians.

    The double patios are perfect for us. As long as the have view of us they do not bark.

    Lazydays is a little more expensive than MHSPRV in Texas.

    We have not found reviews on these two coaches. Which will hold better? How much will it cost for a tire upgrade to GoodYears G-14 10 plies?

    Due to work anf family constrains, I am unable to check this site on a dsily basis. Thank you in advance for your input.


    With regard to GY G-14 10 ply tires, the cost to upgrade is not cheap. But, in the long run when you factor in safety, peace of mind and durability of tire, it is relatively cheap. When I bought my new 5th. wheel, I made that a condition of the sale---GY G-14 tires or no deal! No problem, the tires were actually changed at the factory. On another truck, the cost to replace all my tires was approx. $800. I have had good service with this G-14 tire.
  • Carlos & Ranae wrote:
    This comming year we will be going on the road from 9 to ten months at the time , The goal is to visit all fourty-nine states a minimum of two weeks, others more.

    Nova Scotia, Prince Edwards Isle, Newfoundland and Labrador are high on the DW
    List.

    Upper penninsual and Calgary are on my list

    We will be traveling with four, well behaved Chihuahuas/Pomeranians.

    The double patios are perfect for us. As long as the have view of us they do not bark.

    Lazydays is a little more expensive than MHSPRV in Texas.

    We have not found reviews on these two coaches. Which will hold better? How much will it cost for a tire upgrade to GoodYears G-14 10 plies?

    Due to work anf family constrains, I am unable to check this site on a dsily basis. Thank you in advance for your input.


    If you are ordering your unit, Heartland allows you to upgrade from the factory to G614's so do it that way to avoid spending money on tires twice. If you are looking to buy a stock unit, they run about $350 mounted at my local tire shop. As to the two brands they are both made by Heartland and both at the same level of quality and options. It's like comparing GM to Chevy. (Excluding Denali...) In the beginning, Cyclone was marketed and built to a higher standard but after a few years of production, they were made to be equals. As to Heartland's rep as a whole, it's gone down in recent years partially due to Thor's management and also because Cyclone is the #1 selling hauler on the market and they are just pushing them out so fast. I don't think either is a bad choice when compared to the rest of the mass produced Elkhart units. As others have stated, there are a few brands that are scoring higher of late with customer satisfaction. However, if a Heartland product had the perfect floorplan for me, I wouldn't be frightened off. I just sold a Road Warrior 30C that did not have one warranty issue after three years and over 10k miles other than a bad water pump which was not Heartland's fault.
  • Looking at the current Cyclone Pricing sheet: Upgrade to Goodyear G14
    Double Axle $2249
    Triple Axle $2999

    Kinda pricey tires to me...
  • Option prices are discounted 35% just like the trailer is. G614's are usually $350 mounted so those numbers are about right and those tires are worth every penny...
  • avvidclif1 wrote:
    Looking at the current Cyclone Pricing sheet: Upgrade to Goodyear G14
    Double Axle $2249
    Triple Axle $2999

    Kinda pricey tires to me...


    Why would you pay $500 each to Heartland when as other posters have said you can buy them for $350?
  • tinner12002 wrote:
    avvidclif1 wrote:
    Looking at the current Cyclone Pricing sheet: Upgrade to Goodyear G14
    Double Axle $2249
    Triple Axle $2999

    Kinda pricey tires to me...


    Why would you pay $500 each to Heartland when as other posters have said you can buy them for $350?

    You wouldn't. Those prices don't reflect the discount you will get when you buy the trailer. A new Heartland RV is 100k on it's MSRP but you can buy it for 65k. The prices on the option's literature are MSRP and are discounted just like the trailer itself when you are negotiating with the dealer. The average discount out there is about 35% on new RV's. 35% off the prices mentioned comes to $365 per tire. Pretty close.