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Dec 27, 2016

Rear racks Research

Started a new thread so i don,t hijack johndeerefarmer thread on his great job building a rear rack for his rig. so this is what I have found looking for threads on racks breaking and people losing generators and or bikes off the back of there rig.
In my original post i never said it can not happen but statistically it dose not seem to be the problem some make it out to be.



1. first search "Broken Rack" last 12 month's ZERO results found

2. second search "Broken Rack" more than 12 months ZERO results

3. third search "lost bikes" more than 12 months ZERO results

4. forth search "lost generator" more than 12 months ZERO results

As the Moderator pointed out i should do the search and i will find many post of people losing bikes and generators off the rear racks. I did not find one post in the last 12 months or going further back than 12 months. Nor did i find any pics. Maybe i have searched wrong or in the last five years on this board I just missed all the post with broken racks and lost generators and lost bikes of the back of rigs. I did find many post saying dont do it you will lose you generator but no proof or pics of this happening. It seems to me that this is as risky as driving with our frig on. Maybe i am wrong maybe this happens more than any of us actually see or experience.

I just get frustrated when someone works really hard on a modification or improvement, and shares it with the board. Then a bunch of people or a few. proceed to tell them that its wrong or wont work or is dangerous. When it is statistically not really a problem.
As for me I hope i am not punished or banned for disagreeing with a Moderator.

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In my original post i never said it can not happen but statistically it dose not seem to be the problem some make it out to be.



1. first search \"Broken Rack\" last 12 month's ZERO results found

2. second search \"Broken Rack\" more than 12 months ZERO results

3. third search \"lost bikes\" more than 12 months ZERO results

4. forth search \"lost generator\" more than 12 months ZERO results

As the Moderator pointed out i should do the search and i will find many post of people losing bikes and generators off the rear racks. I did not find one post in the last 12 months or going further back than 12 months. Nor did i find any pics. Maybe i have searched wrong or in the last five years on this board I just missed all the post with broken racks and lost generators and lost bikes of the back of rigs. I did find many post saying dont do it you will lose you generator but no proof or pics of this happening. It seems to me that this is as risky as driving with our frig on. Maybe i am wrong maybe this happens more than any of us actually see or experience.

I just get frustrated when someone works really hard on a modification or improvement, and shares it with the board. Then a bunch of people or a few. proceed to tell them that its wrong or wont work or is dangerous. When it is statistically not really a problem.
As for me I hope i am not punished or banned for disagreeing with a Moderator.","body@stringLength":"1741","rawBody":"Started a new thread so i don,t hijack johndeerefarmer thread on his great job building a rear rack for his rig. so this is what I have found looking for threads on racks breaking and people losing generators and or bikes off the back of there rig.
In my original post i never said it can not happen but statistically it dose not seem to be the problem some make it out to be.



1. first search \"Broken Rack\" last 12 month's ZERO results found

2. second search \"Broken Rack\" more than 12 months ZERO results

3. third search \"lost bikes\" more than 12 months ZERO results

4. forth search \"lost generator\" more than 12 months ZERO results

As the Moderator pointed out i should do the search and i will find many post of people losing bikes and generators off the rear racks. I did not find one post in the last 12 months or going further back than 12 months. Nor did i find any pics. Maybe i have searched wrong or in the last five years on this board I just missed all the post with broken racks and lost generators and lost bikes of the back of rigs. I did find many post saying dont do it you will lose you generator but no proof or pics of this happening. It seems to me that this is as risky as driving with our frig on. Maybe i am wrong maybe this happens more than any of us actually see or experience.

I just get frustrated when someone works really hard on a modification or improvement, and shares it with the board. Then a bunch of people or a few. proceed to tell them that its wrong or wont work or is dangerous. When it is statistically not really a problem.
As for me I hope i am not punished or banned for disagreeing with a 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johndeerefarmer wrote:
otrfun wrote:
I think the OP (from the previous thread) did an outstanding job painting and welding that generator platform. Looks professional. Although I have my doubts, it may very well be a safe and well-engineered solution for carrying his generator.

FWIW, about a year ago I approached a local trailer repair facility that specializes in trailer welding, frame, and suspension repair. I asked about welding two receivers to the rear of our toy hauler frame (I-beam). He asked what I planned to use the receivers for. I told him we wanted to mount a platform on it to store no more than 300 lbs. of gear. He recommended against it due to dynamic loading. Explaining that the up and down dynamic loading caused by the inherent slop/play found in all receiver inserts is magnified dramatically by the length and weight of the platform. According to him the issue was not so much a concern about a sudden, dramatic failure, but the potential for a gradual, permanent (unrepairable!) bending of the rear frame members over time. I respected his opinion---especially since he talked himself right out of a job.
Being the guy that built the generator rack I figured I needed to respond to this. My rack has no slop and play due to the set screws that I made out of bolts. (my idea of stopping the slop is not new, there are several companies that sells items to do this. I just designed and made my own) So basically I have a rigid extension of the frame. If you shake it up and down there is no slop- the entire rear of the rv moves with it.
The factory built folding 500 lb capacity bike/cargo rack on my previous Columbus had slop because the holes where you inserted the pins to hold it down were oversized so that you could insert the pins easily.

As we all see, everyone has an opinion and can do what they want. I exercised my freedom and designed and built my own.

To the OP of this thread, thanks for starting it. You might check with Lippert who makes the 500 lb fold down rack and see if they have any records of failure.
I suspect that most failures will be items falling off from not being secured properly, or those that buy the single receiver mount Harbor Freight cargo carriers and load them heavy.
Well, have to say it certainly sounds like you have all the bases covered. I'm impressed that you had the foresight to realize how important it was to make that platforum rigid as possible. With it loose---even slightly, all the weight on that platform acts just like a jack-hammer slowly taking its toll on the receiver and frame. From afar, I think it's hard to really appreciate all the work and design that went into your project. I'm confident if we saw it in person we'd change our tune. Again, looks like you did an outstanding job fabricating that rack!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2016-12-28T10:05:41.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-12-28T10:05:41.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":364},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2488130/message:2488157","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2488156":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2488156","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2488156":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:88775"},"id":"message:2488156","revisionNum":1,"uid":2488156,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2488130"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2488130"},"subject":"Re: Rear racks Research","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2488156"},"body":"
johndeerefarmer wrote:
otrfun wrote:
I think the OP (from the previous thread) did an outstanding job painting and welding that generator platform. Looks professional. Although I have my doubts, it may very well be a safe and well-engineered solution for carrying his generator.

FWIW, about a year ago I approached a local trailer repair facility that specializes in trailer welding, frame, and suspension repair. I asked about welding two receivers to the rear of our toy hauler frame (I-beam). He asked what I planned to use the receivers for. I told him we wanted to mount a platform on it to store no more than 300 lbs. of gear. He recommended against it due to dynamic loading. Explaining that the up and down dynamic loading caused by the inherent slop/play found in all receiver inserts is magnified dramatically by the length and weight of the platform. According to him the issue was not so much a concern about a sudden, dramatic failure, but the potential for a gradual, permanent (unrepairable!) bending of the rear frame members over time. I respected his opinion---especially since he talked himself right out of a job.


Being the guy that built the generator rack I figured I needed to respond to this. My rack has no slop and play due to the set screws that I made out of bolts. (my idea of stopping the slop is not new, there are several companies that sells items to do this. I just designed and made my own) So basically I have a rigid extension of the frame. If you shake it up and down there is no slop- the entire rear of the rv moves with it.
The factory built folding 500 lb capacity bike/cargo rack on my previous Columbus had slop because the holes where you inserted the pins to hold it down were oversized so that you could insert the pins easily.

As we all see, everyone has an opinion and can do what they want. I exercised my freedom and designed and built my own.

To the OP of this thread, thanks for starting it. You might check with Lippert who makes the 500 lb fold down rack and see if they have any records of failure.
I suspect that most failures will be items falling off from not being secured properly, or those that buy the single receiver mount Harbor Freight cargo carriers and load them heavy.



You are welcome!!!!!! johndeerefarmer
As i said well built nice job. I have learned on here we will always have those who think \"The sky is falling\"
I think it is important to \"Poke the bear\" from time to time to help the new members see its not all doom and gloom.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2016-12-28T06:05:46.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-12-28T06:05:46.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":363},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2488130/message:2488156","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:38":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:38","position":27,"name":"Nomad II","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:322273":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:322273","uid":322273,"login":"bid_time","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-08-18T08:02:07.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:38"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:322273"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2488155":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2488155","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2488155":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:322273"},"id":"message:2488155","revisionNum":1,"uid":2488155,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2488130"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2488130"},"subject":"Re: Rear racks Research","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2488155"},"body":"I had a little time so I did a little research myself. On \"over 12 months\", first I searched \"bike\", then within those results \"fell\". I got 22 pages most not applicable. But through reading I discovered this. More often it is not the hitching the bike rack to the trailer itself that fails, what fails is the bike rack itself. Welds break and shear, bolts severe, metal bends and fatigues, straps loosen and fall off, and a whole host of other issues. In most cases this is due to the dynamic loading and the amount of bouncing that is going on way back there which ends up with the failure of the rack/platform because they just aren't built for those kind of loads and forces. There is a pretty good chance your securely fastened to the frame and welded receiver tube will still be there, but the bike rack and generator platform itself - not so much.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2016-12-28T05:48:06.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-12-28T05:48:06.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":364},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2488130/message:2488155","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:1370":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:1370","uid":1370,"login":"johndeerefarmer","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2011-03-06T08:54:20.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:1370"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2488154":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2488154","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2488154":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1370"},"id":"message:2488154","revisionNum":1,"uid":2488154,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2488130"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2488130"},"subject":"Re: Rear racks Research","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2488154"},"body":"
otrfun wrote:
I think the OP (from the previous thread) did an outstanding job painting and welding that generator platform. Looks professional. Although I have my doubts, it may very well be a safe and well-engineered solution for carrying his generator.

FWIW, about a year ago I approached a local trailer repair facility that specializes in trailer welding, frame, and suspension repair. I asked about welding two receivers to the rear of our toy hauler frame (I-beam). He asked what I planned to use the receivers for. I told him we wanted to mount a platform on it to store no more than 300 lbs. of gear. He recommended against it due to dynamic loading. Explaining that the up and down dynamic loading caused by the inherent slop/play found in all receiver inserts is magnified dramatically by the length and weight of the platform. According to him the issue was not so much a concern about a sudden, dramatic failure, but the potential for a gradual, permanent (unrepairable!) bending of the rear frame members over time. I respected his opinion---especially since he talked himself right out of a job.


Being the guy that built the generator rack I figured I needed to respond to this. My rack has no slop and play due to the set screws that I made out of bolts. (my idea of stopping the slop is not new, there are several companies that sells items to do this. I just designed and made my own) So basically I have a rigid extension of the frame. If you shake it up and down there is no slop- the entire rear of the rv moves with it.
The factory built folding 500 lb capacity bike/cargo rack on my previous Columbus had slop because the holes where you inserted the pins to hold it down were oversized so that you could insert the pins easily.

As we all see, everyone has an opinion and can do what they want. I exercised my freedom and designed and built my own.

To the OP of this thread, thanks for starting it. You might check with Lippert who makes the 500 lb fold down rack and see if they have any records of failure.
I suspect that most failures will be items falling off from not being secured properly, or those that buy the single receiver mount Harbor Freight cargo carriers and load them heavy.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2016-12-28T05:38:04.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-12-28T05:38:04.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":363},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2488130/message:2488154","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:206072":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:206072","uid":206072,"login":"reddwar","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2002-12-13T07:17:17.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:206072"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2488153":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2488153","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2488153":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:206072"},"id":"message:2488153","revisionNum":1,"uid":2488153,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2488130"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2488130"},"subject":"Re: Rear racks Research","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2488153"},"body":"A few years back ran into a guy that built race cars. He had an arctic fox 5er & moved axle back so the front axle was where the rear axle was & had beefed it up. They had 2 arctic cat ATV's stacked one on top the other on the back of there rig.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"211","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2016-12-27T22:03:14.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-12-27T22:03:14.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":363},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2488130/message:2488153","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:40748":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:40748","uid":40748,"login":"Dave_H_M","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-08-11T06:56:39.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:40748"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2488152":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2488152","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2488152":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:40748"},"id":"message:2488152","revisionNum":1,"uid":2488152,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2488130"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2488130"},"subject":"Re: Rear racks Research","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2488152"},"body":"I am wondering if I could do a quote on the entire thread? :B

Anyhow, i have a 2010 Laredo that had a recall on the spare tire mount on the rear bumper. Ummmm seems they had problems with it yanking itself off the bumper. The bumper is on the extend a rack and it had nothing to do with the rack itself.

i did move the spare under the trailer after receiving the recall notice.

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otrfun wrote:
I think the OP (from the previous thread) did an outstanding job painting and welding that generator platform. Looks professional. Although I have my doubts, it may very well be a safe and well-engineered solution for carrying his generator.

FWIW, about a year ago I approached a local trailer repair facility that specializes in trailer welding, frame, and suspension repair. I asked about welding two receivers to the rear of our toy hauler frame (I-beam). He asked what I planned to use the receivers for. I told him we wanted to mount a platform on it to store no more than 300 lbs. of gear. He recommended against it due to dynamic loading. Explaining that the up and down dynamic loading caused by the inherent slop/play found in all receiver inserts is magnified dramatically by the length and weight of the platform. According to him the issue was not so much a concern about a sudden, dramatic failure, but the potential for a gradual, permanent (unrepairable!) bending of the rear frame members over time. I respected his opinion---especially since he talked himself right out of a job.


This is why, if you're building a \"proper\" setup, you use a sub-frame, at least 4' long, to support the main trailer frame. If you're building for towing, then the sub-frame should most likely extend clear to the rear spring shackle, with at least 3 cross-members; 2 to hold the receiver(s) and 1 at the far end.

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FWIW, about a year ago I approached a local trailer repair facility that specializes in trailer welding, frame, and suspension repair. I asked about welding two receivers to the rear of our toy hauler frame (I-beam). He asked what I planned to use the receivers for. I told him we wanted to mount a platform on it to store no more than 300 lbs. of gear. He recommended against it due to dynamic loading. Explaining that the up and down dynamic loading caused by the inherent slop/play found in all receiver inserts is magnified dramatically by the length and weight of the platform. According to him the issue was not so much a concern about a sudden, dramatic failure, but the potential for a gradual, permanent (unrepairable!) bending of the rear frame members over time. I respected his opinion---especially since he talked himself right out of a job.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2016-12-27T09:39:22.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-12-27T09:39:22.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":363},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:2488130/message:2488150","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:1490":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:1490","uid":1490,"login":"CarnationSailor","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-12-21T07:53:37.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:1490"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2488149":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2488149","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2488149":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1490"},"id":"message:2488149","revisionNum":1,"uid":2488149,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2488130"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2488130"},"subject":"Re: Rear racks Research","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2488149"},"body":"For me, it's all about the risk/reward tradeoff. First, let me say that I don't carry anything on the back of my 5th-wheel at the present time, but since a welder has inspected my rear bumper and declared it safe to carry up to 2 bikes, I would even though there are arguments against it on this forum.

My decision is based on the likelihood of them falling off. I am convinced that bikes have fallen off the back of bumper mounted hitches, but the lack of evidence to show that this is a common occurrence supports my decision to accept the risk and enjoy the reward.

Is it possible for a failure to happen to me? Yes.

What are the odds that a failure will occur with my specific bumper construction? Extremely low.

It's like the decision we make every time we get on the road.

Could we be in an accident on a given trip? Yes

Is it likely we will? 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