Slide-out jack stabilizers. Good or bad?
I'm wondering about the use of slide-out stabilizers. Will they bend the slide-out supports over time?
brubri wrote:
I'm wondering about the use of slide-out stabilizers. Will they bend the slide-out supports over time?
brubri wrote:
I'm wondering about the use of slide-out stabilizers. Will they bend the slide-out supports over time?
fpresto wrote:Miles Away wrote:
The instances where they MAY have caused damage is almost too small to quantify. Most naysayers point to the loss or air in your tires. Most tire failures occur on the road, not while parked, and what are the chances of both tires going flat at the same time while parked?
I have to respectfully disagree with you for several reasons. First the reason cases of damage being too small to quantify is because very few people use them in part because, like my Cedar Creek Owners manual says specifically \"do not use slide out supports or the warranty is voided\". They must have put that in for a reason. Second to have any effect the supports would have to be cranked up tight leaving no room for any settling. Third the tires do not have to go flat. You pull in after traveling any appreciable distance and the tires are hot and while you set up they then both cool down and the pressure drops as it drops you get more settling and as small as it is it could be enough to bend the rails. Fourth and most important if you do get damage you may not be able to retract your slide and also the repair could involve removing the slide and changing the rails. The cost could easily be in the thousands of dollars. The risk in my opinion for very little if any gain is not worth it. That, of course, is just my opinion and you are welcome to yours.
fpresto wrote:Miles Away wrote:
The instances where they MAY have caused damage is almost too small to quantify. Most naysayers point to the loss or air in your tires. Most tire failures occur on the road, not while parked, and what are the chances of both tires going flat at the same time while parked?
I have to respectfully disagree with you for several reasons. First the reason cases of damage being too small to quantify is because very few people use them in part because, like my Cedar Creek Owners manual says specifically \"do not use slide out supports or the warranty is voided\". They must have put that in for a reason. Second to have any effect the supports would have to be cranked up tight leaving no room for any settling. Third the tires do not have to go flat. You pull in after traveling any appreciable distance and the tires are hot and while you set up they then both cool down and the pressure drops as it drops you get more settling and as small as it is it could be enough to bend the rails. Fourth and most important if you do get damage you may not be able to retract your slide and also the repair could involve removing the slide and changing the rails. The cost could easily be in the thousands of dollars. The risk in my opinion for very little if any gain is not worth it. That, of course, is just my opinion and you are welcome to yours.
Miles Away wrote:
The instances where they MAY have caused damage is almost too small to quantify. Most naysayers point to the loss or air in your tires. Most tire failures occur on the road, not while parked, and what are the chances of both tires going flat at the same time while parked?
Miles Away wrote:
The instances where they MAY have caused damage is almost too small to quantify. Most naysayers point to the loss or air in your tires. Most tire failures occur on the road, not while parked, and what are the chances of both tires going flat at the same time while parked?
janstey58 wrote:
Ditto to mileshuff, has anyone bent a slideout??
janstey58 wrote:
Ditto to mileshuff, has anyone bent a slideout??
mileshuff wrote:The poster I was replying to was suggesting that manufacturers would install a product if that product actually worked. I was giving an example of a product that worked but was rarely offered as OEM. I know the difference between slideout stabilizers and JT Strongarms.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-01-07T08:03:33.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-01-07T08:03:33.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":399},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1629613/message:1629628","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1076","rawBody":"fj12ryder wrote:
I don't know that I would go that far since stabilizers like JT Strongarms work very well and they mostly don't come factory installed.
JT's are for stabilizing the trailer from movement while walking inside the trailer. I've never had a slide out that wobbles uncomfortably that needs further stabilizing. If it is not sturdy enough to handle people sitting at the table then I'd opt for a different RV made better!
Slide stabilizers can easily add unwanted stresses to the slide since the trailer can settle, bounce etc and the slide would not be able to move with it. Especially true if a tire decides to leak. I've only seen stabilizers used on rather old trailers on rare occasions.
mileshuff wrote:The poster I was replying to was suggesting that manufacturers would install a product if that product actually worked. I was giving an example of a product that worked but was rarely offered as OEM. I know the difference between slideout stabilizers and JT Strongarms.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1629628_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:214846":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:214846","uid":214846,"login":"Miles_Away","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2008-04-01T08:37:47.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:214846"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1629627":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1629627","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1629627":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:214846"},"id":"message:1629627","revisionNum":1,"uid":1629627,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1629613"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1629613"},"subject":"Re: Slide-out jack stabilizers. Good or bad?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1629627"},"body":"We use them on our super slide when staying longer than just over night. Don't let all the scary stories frighten you away. The instances where they MAY have caused damage is almost too small to quantify. Most naysayers point to the loss or air in your tires. Most tire failures occur on the road, not while parked, and what are the chances of both tires going flat at the same time while parked? So if using them makes you feel all warm & fuzzy, and if the small amount of labor involved in setting them up is no issue, then go for it. Keep in mind that they are just for extra support, do not crank them up like a jack.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-01-07T07:58:09.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-01-07T07:58:09.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":399},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1629613/message:1629627","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"631","rawBody":"We use them on our super slide when staying longer than just over night. Don't let all the scary stories frighten you away. The instances where they MAY have caused damage is almost too small to quantify. Most naysayers point to the loss or air in your tires. Most tire failures occur on the road, not while parked, and what are the chances of both tires going flat at the same time while parked? So if using them makes you feel all warm & fuzzy, and if the small amount of labor involved in setting them up is no issue, then go for it. Keep in mind that they are just for extra support, do not crank them up like a jack.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1629627_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:178170":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:178170","uid":178170,"login":"RustyJC","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2001-07-02T11:50:01.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:178170"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1629626":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1629626","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1629626":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:178170"},"id":"message:1629626","revisionNum":1,"uid":1629626,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1629613"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1629613"},"subject":"Re: Slide-out jack stabilizers. Good or bad?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1629626"},"body":"I've had 5th wheels with slideouts since 1996. I've never used a slideout support and frankly never felt like I had the need for one. I most assuredly wouldn't use them on my current rig with its automatic leveling system!!fj12ryder wrote:
I don't know that I would go that far since stabilizers like JT Strongarms work very well and they mostly don't come factory installed.
JT's are for stabilizing the trailer from movement while walking inside the trailer. I've never had a slide out that wobbles uncomfortably that needs further stabilizing. If it is not sturdy enough to handle people sitting at the table then I'd opt for a different RV made better!
Slide stabilizers can easily add unwanted stresses to the slide since the trailer can settle, bounce etc and the slide would not be able to move with it. Especially true if a tire decides to leak. I've only seen stabilizers used on rather old trailers on rare occasions.
