So light a child can remove it from the truck

rskeans wrote:
Ahhh. I see. You have a pad lock on the handle. Oh well. If you think that it is necessary.

Yea, I don't see the problem either...

Most people who don't know about the Andersen would have no idea about the little handle. Plus the customary walk around when fueling and from stops should catch an unlocked handle.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Ahhh. I see. You have a pad lock on the handle. Oh well. If you think that it is necessary.

Cummins12V98 wrote:

rskeans wrote:
Just FYI, the Andersen release handle is accessed from the tailgate and is an easy reach. I also have problems reaching across the dually fenders.

Maybe so but I see no way to lock the handle like I can here.

It's a handle with a 'twist' lock.

rskeans wrote:
Just FYI, the Andersen release handle is accessed from the tailgate and is an easy reach. I also have problems reaching across the dually fenders.

Maybe so but I see no way to lock the handle like I can here.

chuck6927 wrote:
Cummins12V98 can you reach the release handle and lock pin on your B&W easily? I have the 14 dually with side steps and being short (5' 8") I am wondering if I will have problems reaching the release handle and locking it. I like the B&W but if I will have problems reaching the handle I will have to go with the Curt setup with a straight pull handle. Thanks in advance for your input.

Believe me you want to stick with the B&W even if the handle is harder to reach. Carry a small step ladder or make one of these like i did or AMP has a "bed step 2" that will work also. You are going to want something to access a tool box anyway.

Just FYI, the Andersen release handle is accessed from the tailgate and is an easy reach. I also have problems reaching across the dually fenders.

Cummins12V98 can you reach the release handle and lock pin on your B&W easily? I have the 14 dually with side steps and being short (5' 8") I am wondering if I will have problems reaching the release handle and locking it. I like the B&W but if I will have problems reaching the handle I will have to go with the Curt setup with a straight pull handle. Thanks in advance for your input.

Jerry B wrote:

up2nogood wrote:

Jerry B wrote:

up2nogood wrote:

Jerry B wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

psuce wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Think about the weight that is applied when the brakes are hit hard and winging over some of these overpasses the hitch IS pushing fore and aft and it will and does deflect the bed. I have dents to prove it in the 11 I just traded. Once I installed the strips the deflection stopped!

Makes sense there would be fore and aft forces applied during travel, I was speaking more generally about the vertical load and carrying capacities. B&W must have realized the issue via testing or real world exposure and corrected it by providing the strips. The strips now provide a solid/compressible contact point between the fifth wheel hitch and the gooseneck hitch and "bottom" corrugations, and not the "top" corrugations which could be dented. If it happened using the B&W, then the possibility is there that it would happen using the Anderson also, since it sits on top of the corrugations.

Andersen emphasizes the downward force in their videos. I think people need to consider what happens to the hitch and bed when a RV is pushing and pulling. There are times when it feels like the RV is going to rip the hitch right out of my truck it is so violent under some conditions.

I too was surprised to see Anderson only discuss downward crushing force. Fore and aft shearing forces are more paramount than vertical forces. I think they may be blowing a little smoke there. I take steel anytime over aluminum.

I tried to explain the crushing test ,and its relationship to fore ,and aft movement, and I would do it again , but I am afraid it just falls on deaf ears. Let me put it to you in a very simple way, bracing is a wonderful thing, get yourself educated , and then take a look at how the Andersen is fabricated

If you would like, I can do a stress 'finite analysis' and show you are also blowing smoke. Get educated then we will talk.

That would be awesome, I will wait to see the results. I'm sure I have blown smoke before, but always ready to hear from an expert.

I suspect you may not be able to interpret the results. Have fun.

Thats pretty much what I thought would be the reply, It seems that I'm not the only one that should be accused of blowing smoke here. . For a brief ,and I do mean brief moment ,I thought that you might have something to share.

If you do want to share your wisdom, I'm sure I can get someone to interpret your big words for me. :)

up2nogood wrote:

Jerry B wrote:

up2nogood wrote:

Jerry B wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

psuce wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Think about the weight that is applied when the brakes are hit hard and winging over some of these overpasses the hitch IS pushing fore and aft and it will and does deflect the bed. I have dents to prove it in the 11 I just traded. Once I installed the strips the deflection stopped!

Makes sense there would be fore and aft forces applied during travel, I was speaking more generally about the vertical load and carrying capacities. B&W must have realized the issue via testing or real world exposure and corrected it by providing the strips. The strips now provide a solid/compressible contact point between the fifth wheel hitch and the gooseneck hitch and "bottom" corrugations, and not the "top" corrugations which could be dented. If it happened using the B&W, then the possibility is there that it would happen using the Anderson also, since it sits on top of the corrugations.

Andersen emphasizes the downward force in their videos. I think people need to consider what happens to the hitch and bed when a RV is pushing and pulling. There are times when it feels like the RV is going to rip the hitch right out of my truck it is so violent under some conditions.

I too was surprised to see Anderson only discuss downward crushing force. Fore and aft shearing forces are more paramount than vertical forces. I think they may be blowing a little smoke there. I take steel anytime over aluminum.

I tried to explain the crushing test ,and its relationship to fore ,and aft movement, and I would do it again , but I am afraid it just falls on deaf ears. Let me put it to you in a very simple way, bracing is a wonderful thing, get yourself educated , and then take a look at how the Andersen is fabricated

If you would like, I can do a stress 'finite analysis' and show you are also blowing smoke. Get educated then we will talk.

That would be awesome, I will wait to see the results. I'm sure I have blown smoke before, but always ready to hear from an expert.

I suspect you may not be able to interpret the results. Have fun.

MC9 wrote:
Now that's funny.

I agree that was funny!