SRW vs DRW

rhagfo wrote:


Just have to ask, how does that 5er tow/ride with less than 15% pin weight?? I would think it would be a bit of a bucking bronco.

Here's a Video I made of the test run performed while I was building the thing.



I have 400 lbs of ballast in the front closet to get the weights where they are. At those weights it handles just ok. Any less weight on the pin and it's terrible. Bucking isn't so much a problem but swaying is. I am planning to move my trailer axles back 20" which should put the weights where I want them.

Charlie_on_lake_conr wrote:
Hi, brand new member looking for confirmation from the experts (lot’s of good discussion in this topic) and I don’t want to trust the salesman. I’ve poured through the owners manuals and towing guides and have calculated a trailer GVWR of 18,454 based on my TV (I know I need to actually weigh my TV, but let’s assume my base numbers are correct).

First question - does this TT GVWR sound right?
Second question - Would a 5th wheel with a UVW of 14,190, carrying capacity of 3,810 and pin weight of 3,176 be too much for this TV?

Hope my pics show in the post:

How many axles under this fiver? If it is a triple axle toy hauler the 1 ton srw would handle it just fine. If it is a tandem axle center kitchen you'll definitely overload the trucks gvwr by the time you fully load the trailer. If you're comfortable loading the truck to near its rear axle capacity you might be ok but the only way you'd know would be to scale the unit loaded.

Charlie_on_lake_conr wrote:
Hi, brand new member looking for confirmation from the experts (lot’s of good discussion in this topic) and I don’t want to trust the salesman. I’ve poured through the owners manuals and towing guides and have calculated a trailer GVWR of 18,454 based on my TV (I know I need to actually weigh my TV, but let’s assume my base numbers are correct).

First question - does this TT GVWR sound right?
Second question - Would a 5th wheel with a UVW of 14,190, carrying capacity of 3,810 and pin weight of 3,176 be too much for this TV?

Hope my pics show in the post:

Your UVW is low. That truck is going to weigh 7300-7500 pounds empty.

A 5th wheel with a 14k lb UVW is very likely going to overload an SRW truck.

You need a dually.

4x4ord wrote:
Cummins had me figured but those weights do include 400 lbs of ballast in the front closet to offset some of the bike's weight:


Click For Full-Size Image.

I'm curious as to how that works. I don't think you put it up there by hand

Charlie_on_lake_conr wrote:
Hi, brand new member looking for confirmation from the experts (lot’s of good discussion in this topic) and I don’t want to trust the salesman. I’ve poured through the owners manuals and towing guides and have calculated a trailer GVWR of 18,454 based on my TV (I know I need to actually weigh my TV, but let’s assume my base numbers are correct).

First question - does this TT GVWR sound right?
Second question - Would a 5th wheel with a UVW of 14,190, carrying capacity of 3,810 and pin weight of 3,176 be too much for this TV?

Hope my pics show in the post:

Well with a normal pin of 20% to 25% you will likely over your rear axle and possibly tire ratings.
This is one of the most misleading numbers truck manufactures publish. You can't carry as much as you can pull. Even with only 2,000# of stuff in the 5er, weight goes to 16,190# and at the 22% pin weight percentage 3,562#. Which is more than your total payload, and will likely overload your rear axle. Worst of all you could exceed your TIRE ratings.

4x4ord wrote:
Cummins had me figured but those weights do include 400 lbs of ballast in the front closet to offset some of the bike's weight:


Click For Full-Size Image.

Just have to ask, how does that 5er tow/ride with less than 15% pin weight?? I would think it would be a bit of a bucking bronco.

Hi, brand new member looking for confirmation from the experts (lot’s of good discussion in this topic) and I don’t want to trust the salesman. I’ve poured through the owners manuals and towing guides and have calculated a trailer GVWR of 18,454 based on my TV (I know I need to actually weigh my TV, but let’s assume my base numbers are correct).

First question - does this TT GVWR sound right?
Second question - Would a 5th wheel with a UVW of 14,190, carrying capacity of 3,810 and pin weight of 3,176 be too much for this TV?

Hope my pics show in the post:

Cummins had me figured but those weights do include 400 lbs of ballast in the front closet to offset some of the bike's weight:


Click For Full-Size Image.

4x4ord wrote:


I'm not overloaded with 16900 lbs hooked to my SRW.


Front truck axle 4980 lbs ..... empty weight is 4860
Rear truck axle 5820 lbs ..... empty weight is 3480
Trailer axles 14440 lbs ...... pin weight is 2460

Loaded truck weight is 10800 lbs ... the GVWR is 11500 lbs..... max rear axle weight rating is 7230 lbs

You must have a helium balloon in your front bedroom or something. My trailer weighs in the 9k lb range and has 2300 pounds of pin weight!

Good for you for not being overloaded and actually checking, though. The newer SRWs definitely have the advantage with the stronger tires and higher GVWR. Mine is maxed out at 9900.

4X4ord, Helps having a chunk of weight hanging on the rear of your 5er.