St tires vs LT tires

djgarcia wrote:
Suggestions and recommendations????

Hey OP.......

Now that WE have hi-jacked your thread and gone all sideways with it WHAT tires are you inquiring about ?? :B :B

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BB_TX wrote:

j2catfish wrote:
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OK - I'm telling you: I had OEM LT tires on both my Tetons. ....
The only half way good thing is that Goodyear stepped up and replaced the tires plus paid to have all the damage fixed......

What OEM LT Goodyear tire did you have????

Goodyear G614S
Same tires OEM on my 5th wheel
Same Year also (2007)
Same problem with blow outs
Same response fro Goodyear.....PAID for damage/tires

Issue ......Goodyear ADMITTED that they had bad batches 2006-2007 G614s
LT235/85R16 3750# at 110 psi

GY G614s

It IS a good tire for 5th wheels/trailers
Just like any other mfg. had quality control issues which they addressed and fix.

But they now have decent competition in that size 16" and it is an ST Tire-----and at a MUCH LOWER price :B
Sailun S637s
ST235/85r16 4400# at 110 psi
Sailun S637

j2catfish wrote:

4bearhug wrote:

My logic is that I can't remember anyone ever telling me about having a blowout going down the road on an LT tire (unless striking debris) but I know of plenty of people who have had multiple blowouts on ST tires. I won't even get into the fact that LT tires are held to a higher testing standard than ST tires.

OK - I'm telling you: I had OEM LT tires on both my Tetons. Total blowouts on this one (2007) was at six (6) with the attending damage to the fiver before I changed to 17.5" and load range J. I know - slow learner. Nearly the same experience with the original Teton (1997, same corrective action. The only half way good thing is that Goodyear stepped up and replaced the tires plus paid to have all the damage fixed. Just out my time.
I do have a tire monitor system and it alarmed just as the tire came apart. Also, all the check the tire pressures, temps and so forth was done but still the tires went away.
Catfish

OK. You make one person to report that. How many can say the same thing about blowouts with ST tires? My guess it would be dozens of people on this site alone.

j2catfish wrote:

4bearhug wrote:

My logic is that I can't remember anyone ever telling me about having a blowout going down the road on an LT tire (unless striking debris) but I know of plenty of people who have had multiple blowouts on ST tires.

OK - I'm telling you: I had OEM LT tires on both my Tetons. Total blowouts on this one (2007) was at six (6) with the attending damage to the fiver before I changed to 17.5" and load range J. I know - slow learner. Nearly the same experience with the original Teton (1997, same corrective action.

Not quite the point, unless you switched from OEM Lt's to equal or slightly higher capacity ST's and that solved your blowout issues. OTOH, many OEM ST's have had great results switching to LT's.

j2catfish wrote:
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OK - I'm telling you: I had OEM LT tires on both my Tetons. ....
The only half way good thing is that Goodyear stepped up and replaced the tires plus paid to have all the damage fixed......

What OEM LT Goodyear tire did you have????

Weight ratings are different between LT and ST tires. Just trying to compare numbers doesnt do LT tires justice.

To truly appreciate the superiority of a quality LT tire to a similar weight rating ST you have to inspect them side-by-side unmounted.

I had a chance to do this last year when replacing the China bombs on my 5er with Bridgestone Duravis. Absolutely night/day difference between the two.

I look at it this way ST tires are overrated for their ability to carry weight. Most are lighter than their LT size counterparts yet rated to carry more weight.
I look at this way, there are no special "trailer tires" for over the road trucking. Yes there is different tread design for steer axle tires, drivers, and trailer tires, but they all use the same casing!
The only time you will see new tires on an over the road trailer is when it is new. Then again, the buyer might order it with traction tires to put on the TV, and cap the old drivers with a trailer tread design.
This is why I prefer to run LT tires on my 5er. the 235/85-16E's at 3,042# each is more than enough to cover the axle weight on our 5er with a 12,360# GVWR.

4bearhug wrote:

My logic is that I can't remember anyone ever telling me about having a blowout going down the road on an LT tire (unless striking debris) but I know of plenty of people who have had multiple blowouts on ST tires. I won't even get into the fact that LT tires are held to a higher testing standard than ST tires.

OK - I'm telling you: I had OEM LT tires on both my Tetons. Total blowouts on this one (2007) was at six (6) with the attending damage to the fiver before I changed to 17.5" and load range J. I know - slow learner. Nearly the same experience with the original Teton (1997, same corrective action. The only half way good thing is that Goodyear stepped up and replaced the tires plus paid to have all the damage fixed. Just out my time.
I do have a tire monitor system and it alarmed just as the tire came apart. Also, all the check the tire pressures, temps and so forth was done but still the tires went away.
Catfish

I switched from ST to LT tires after having two blowouts in 3 yrs on fairly new ST tires. Both blowouts caused damage to rig. That was enough for me so I switched and have been happy that I did.

I still have friends who have had multiple blowouts w/ ST tires and continue to put different brands of ST tires on their rigs. That logic doesn't work for me, but it's their money.

My logic is that I can't remember anyone ever telling me about having a blowout going down the road on an LT tire (unless striking debris) but I know of plenty of people who have had multiple blowouts on ST tires. I won't even get into the fact that LT tires are held to a higher testing standard than ST tires.

Matching or exceeding the weight rating of your tires to your RV is whats most important. Personally, I run Maxxis STs on my toy haulers and have had great service from them. Both my RVs came with 15" tires and wheels of which I upgraded to 16" to get more of a safety zone between actual RV weight to tire rating so I can't possibly exceed the tire rating. Everyone has their preference, some will say only run STs, some will say you should run LTs, neither of which will be worth a darn if you don't inspect them constantly and keep tire pressures where they are suppose to be and don't overload them. As I mentioned, I run the STs because they are designed for the constant turning and scrubbing involved with trailer towing and I feel these tires will do me well.