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Jim4929
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Oct 05, 2018

The Odd's weren't with me : Keystone FRAME CRACK

I've been on the forum since 2006. Before buying a fifth wheel, the thing that really scared me to death was what I was reading about Lippert weld and frame failures. My thought was with all the frames Lippert builds, the odds would be in my favor that I would not get one. WRONG. Last year a small crack appeared and I kept close eye on it. It started to run and knowing things like this don't tend to fix themselves I decided to have it repaired ( had damage due to a tire blowout but that's a story for a different day)since I had other damage. All there efforts failed and in their opinion something happened to the frame to cause this much tourqe a weld failure or a break. My call to Keystone yielded a denial of any claim proved to me beyond a reasonable doubt that it was a forgone conclusion.

My question is this. Since this is not as rare as I thought. What are my options? I request that only people who have dealt with this respond with what they tried and what options are most likely to succeed. I'm retired so I'm prepared to take this to a final conclusion if I can find a successful path.

PS if you would like to speak to me off the record, please Private Message me.



14 Replies

  • Well the good news .that's not a frame failure that's a wall stud weld failure theweld broke at the slide side wall and when slide pushed out it pushed the wall out causing the crack. Note the crack starts in the corner going outward
  • Old Buscuit, I hope this was not on your HH. HH did use Lippert frames for a couple of years and went back to Youngs.

    Ken
  • You need to understand where the frame has failed in order to define a fix. That means at least dropping the skin under the gooseneck to see everything. I had a unit that when the brand switched to the notched front cap, then the front crossmember also had to be notched rather that straight across. Only problem is that Lippert made the frame notch greater than was really needed. The front crossmember attached to the main frame just a few inches ahead of the rear crossmember. The result, too much flex. I didn't have a failure, but Lippert agreed the design was poor, they added a forward extension on the main frame rails and relocated the front crossmember further forward. Also extra stiffner for the rear crossmember. Result, less flex. Lippert changed the frame design on new units within a few weeks. My repaired unit was fine 6 yrs later when I traded it in.

    People don't realize that the trailer body, meaning walls, etc. help stiffen the frame, and if the attachment points between the frame and body fail or become loose, then again, the frame flexes too much w/o that extra support and something in the frame will then fail. Patching cracks in the skin does nothing for the underlying problem and cracks will return.
  • Have you removed the overhang panel and inspected the pin box/overhang structure for failures?






    Also check if side wall is no longer attached to overhang horizontal beam


    Watch for movement when you load/unload pin box with overhang panel removed