Think we have found it....Grand design Solitude 365 DEN

yep back cap or not you need the hitch on the back,GD RV'S being a "flatback" is just one of Many things they cheap out on,those of us that have had many 5th wheels(I'm on my 3rd) you know what to look for ,Grand designs just does not have the buying power of Thor and Forest River to put higher quality Equipment on their RV's (YET) Or I would have bought one when I bought my 2015 5er because I do like them they are good looking 5th's but hey I Spent a chunk of change on mine and I wanted the best Bang for the Buck and Grand Designs is not there yet but I think they will get there In time

DeezPanthers1 wrote:
Can I ask, does the rear fiberglass cap do the same as it does in the front? I would think you wouldn't have to worry as much about the back. Thanks.

never-mind, i just looked it. Looks like it is just a looks thing. I really wanted the option to add a bike rack, so not sure that will work for me. Looks nice though.

You're right, the back cap is mostly for looks. Some say it also helps increase fuel mileage but if it does I suspect that it is minimal. I think that it may also help prevent window leaks in some cases because the windows are in the "alcove" of the rear cap as is the case with our unit.

It just makes a unit much more refined and finished IMO. In regards to a bike rack, you will need one that inserts into a hitch that is mounted to the frame on the trailer either way because the cheap bumpers on the non rear cap models are not designed to take the forces exerted by a multi bike rack.

Can I ask, does the rear fiberglass cap do the same as it does in the front? I would think you wouldn't have to worry as much about the back. Thanks.

never-mind, i just looked it. Looks like it is just a looks thing. I really wanted the option to add a bike rack, so not sure that will work for me. Looks nice though.

SkiSmuggs wrote:
Flat screen TVs are a commodity item now. When the 32" Vizio in our Cougar failed for the second time, we chucked it and got a 32" Samsung for $189. The realization that the Jensen system was a terrible DVD player drove me to pick up a small Sony BluRay for $45. And when I am ready to upgrade the sound, a $78 Vizio sound bar should do the trick. Get the floor plan you want.

True enough. And the track record for Grand Design so far has been really good so I wouldn't hesitate to buy one for the right price. I agree that some of the features that should be in them aren't (the rear fiberglass cap is one that I just can't figure out), but overall I think they are a good unit with superb customer service. They sure do sell well from all of the local dealers here.

Flat screen TVs are a commodity item now. When the 32" Vizio in our Cougar failed for the second time, we chucked it and got a 32" Samsung for $189. The realization that the Jensen system was a terrible DVD player drove me to pick up a small Sony BluRay for $45. And when I am ready to upgrade the sound, a $78 Vizio sound bar should do the trick. Get the floor plan you want.

blofgren wrote:
Here's one in Red Deer, AB that is not that far from you in the grand scheme of things. And remember that the US dollar has about a 30% advantage over the Canadian dollar right now. Also, because it is winter and the Alberta economy is hurting due to low oil prices I would bet they would be willing to negotiate.

Solitude 365DEN

I agree that you shouldn't settle on something that you aren't entirely sold on.

And I would also recommend a dually for this trailer.

Thanks.

Here's one in Red Deer, AB that is not that far from you in the grand scheme of things. And remember that the US dollar has about a 30% advantage over the Canadian dollar right now. Also, because it is winter and the Alberta economy is hurting due to low oil prices I would bet they would be willing to negotiate.

Solitude 365DEN

I agree that you shouldn't settle on something that you aren't entirely sold on.

And I would also recommend a dually for this trailer.

leggy wrote:
I am confused when you talk about extra liiving space to use when kids go to bed?

I had a big horn Silverado, very similar lay out except it ha a second door into half bath and outdoor kitchen. 41' long with gen set and I pulled with a Srw f350 with no issues.

We downsized to a 37' GD reflection 323bhs, lost second bath but the living space is incredible. Quality so far is far superior to heartland.

We lived in the big horn for a year while remodeling a house and still felt the back bunk house was a huge waste of space.

Ok so I am sorry if I am not explaining this well as I am new to all the terminology. So we have looked at many rear den floorplans (which to me is the most similar except GD includes wardrobes), where GD is different in floor plan is in the kitchen they do the typical kitchen/living area (you typically see in BH's where you have the 2 person couch/entertainment area, and a table), most of the luxury type models just include a table. This makes perfect sense for couples who would not need an extra tv and couch in kitchen, but for us it makes an extra living space for us once the kids have gone to bed. Yes BH's would give us that also, but then we are stuck with a tiny little couch to sit our whole family while watching tv, bc there is no room in a BH to spend time together.

Thanks for finding the MHC, that is very similar. I don't really care for where the tv is positioned in living room, or that there is only 1 bunk and a 1 pull out sofa. Also, bc of the bunk there is not as much wardrobe as with the GD. I do like it though and it does have most of our wants, so in case I can't find what Im looking for, I will definatly keep it in mind. Thanks.

So I do have a question. I know most of the features I can find easily, but I haven't seen frame thickness or brand of tv used on list of specs or features list...where do you find this info?

I know I may be too picky, but I just feel for the amount of money we are spending that most of my wants and needs should be met. I want to feel excited about getting this, not just settling and just making something work. I know in reality a BH makes more sense, I just can't stand that there is so little living space for our family. If we weren't thinking about living in it for a while then it defiantly would not be this big of deal.

Or if you don't care about that much about "fluff" as Coach-man puts it Montana has some nice BH models in the High Country line which are very nice and has a lot of the same features as a GD Solitude for a lot less money

Maybe take a look at these
http://www.lifestylelrv.com/page/396/LS395SH-Kid-s-Room