Tire Failure-Update IV

Francesca Knowles wrote:
With apologies to the O.P. for a slight drift off-topic:

john&bet wrote:
.....snip..... Mine came from the factory with LT tires.

Do you still have those tires, and if so, is there a brand and other info on them?

I ask because someone posted here a few months ago that the "LT" designated tires that came on his brand new trailer actually also said "trailer use only" on them. I think he even posted a picture of the language, and nobody seemed to be able to figure out what the story was-?

FWIW! The GY G614 LT235/85R16G has "trailer use only" on the sidewall.

Chris

A friend lost a TA a little over a year ago and Discount Tire in Mesa, Az handled the case, sending the tire to BFG. They paid for a new tire and trailer damage.

You know who is most likely sending letters to all the tire companies! He wins we loose. Wonder who pays him?

People will just have to start resolving this before taking delivery, and have the placard reflect what is installed.

Chris

I sent an email to BFG 10 days ago. They responded after a week with a case #. Said to take the tire to a BFG dealer. Took it in today and the dealer said he had a failure like that on his truck-didn't ask the tire brand-and that my tire was a defect. Told me to call BFG and give them his # and he would confirm that the tire was defective. He commented that the tire came apart where it would normally be seamed at the layers and that the straight side to side cut was unusual.

Called BFG and had a recorded conversation with Alvin. He immediately asked me the year of my vehicle and when I said 5th wheel he quickly began to lecture me on the BFG not being a ST tire and that I had misapplied the tire by mounting on my 5th wheel. He explained all the advantages of ST tires on trailers and yes he was aware of the horror stories of damages they cause. I had told him that I had removed them from a previous 5th wheel because I refused to have a trailer with ST tires. He got part of that story wrong when he repeated it because he said I took them off a truck. After I corrected him he said by taking a tire off the original vehicle and putting them on another I automatically voided the warranty.

He then began to tell me that the ST tire-and he said BFG doesn't make them-are rated with a higher capacity that LT tires. DUH!!!I told him that I was aware of that and my axles are 5200 # and I have weigh tickets and that the BFG tires were well within the limits of their capacity. He then began another explanation of the legal ramifications of having LT tires on trailers and that from a legal standpoint BFG was declining any assistance of the failed tire.

We continued the discussion of ST vs. LT and said he has had a number of calls recently from customers about failures of the Commercial T/A's. I told him that some RV manufacturers are installing LT tires on RV's and he said that many of the people calling in have said the same thing.

To sum things up:
I voided warranty of the tires when I put them on a trailer.
I voided warranty of the tires when I moved them from one vehicle to another.
BFG from a legal standpoint will not honor any warranty for LT tires on anything other than the original installation of a light duty truck.

I know there are those on this forum who say they have had damage and tire assistance from tire manufacturers including BFG.

My first 5er had GY Marathons made in China. One failure and I went to the highly rated, at that time, Denman ST. One year later 2 failures. I then purchased 5 new BFG and went from 15 to 16". These tires have been exceptional until the failure with 2 trips to Arizona, 1 to California, Grand Canyon and Montana and Wyoming and to Delaware.

I guess what disappoints me is that I tried to do the right thing. Good tires, TPMS, reduced speed, proper inflation, balancing and anal about checking every 100 miles. Tires fail but one would expect some help when they are defective.

With apologies to the O.P. for a slight drift off-topic:

john&bet wrote:
.....snip..... Mine came from the factory with LT tires.

Do you still have those tires, and if so, is there a brand and other info on them?

I ask because someone posted here a few months ago that the "LT" designated tires that came on his brand new trailer actually also said "trailer use only" on them. I think he even posted a picture of the language, and nobody seemed to be able to figure out what the story was-?

tinner12002 wrote:
Maybe it was because he had LT tires where ST tires should have been. Oh wait I forgot, you never have blowouts with LT tires on trailers...silly me how could I forget that.

You must be Fast Eagle's kin, ROTFL...:B

Tell it to the mfgrs that are equipping their product with LTs..:R

Silly you -
did you also conveniently forget.....
Fast Eagle -the original "defender" of ST tires, at one time
(right here on the forums) - admitted to having no less than 22 ST tires on his trailer. (Not all at the same time, LOL!)

Just another silly ST success story!..:S

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tinner12002 wrote:
Maybe it was because he had LT tires where ST tires should have been. Oh wait I forgot, you never have blowouts with LT tires on trailers...silly me how could I forget that.

Maybe you are correct but I don't think so. Hopefully will find out soon cause of failure but these tires had 20,000 miles with first failure. Previously I have had ST tires. One blowout on a Goodyear Marathon and 2 blowouts on Denman's. All three ST tires with less than a combined total of 15,000 miles.

tinner12002 wrote:
Maybe it was because he had LT tires where ST tires should have been. Oh wait I forgot, you never have blowouts with LT tires on trailers...silly me how could I forget that.

I doubt that it was because of LT vs ST. Mine came from the factory with LT tires.

Maybe it was because he had LT tires where ST tires should have been. Oh wait I forgot, you never have blowouts with LT tires on trailers...silly me how could I forget that.

Charlie D. wrote:
UPDATE: Although we are traveling I took the tire and the other tire on the same side to a dealer here that I had bought tires from before. The good tire looked fine but he will force load test it. He stated that he was almost certain it was a defect. The tire carcass, IHO, failed where the carcass and sidewall went together. No evidence of road hazard, bulging or bruising. It appeared to him that a bulge at the sidewall/tread are blew. I had less that 80 miles from the time I looked at the inside of the tires before leaving home

Charlie - thanks for posting the update!..:C

(Lots of posters don't bother).

Come back again with what they decide and/or final verdict.

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UPDATE: Although we are traveling I took the tire and the other tire on the same side to a dealer here that I had bought tires from before. The good tire looked fine but he will force load test it. He stated that he was almost certain it was a defect. The tire carcass, IHO, failed where the carcass and sidewall went together. No evidence of road hazard, bulging or bruising. It appeared to him that a bulge at the sidewall/tread are blew. I had less that 80 miles from the time I looked at the inside of the tires before leaving home