towing a5th wheel with f150 eco 6.5 ft box /3.55

rhagfo wrote:
No Compression braking or very little, small CI displacement.

No less than a diesel without an exhaust brake.

Driver error or improper trailer brake setup is the problem.

I would also bet the F150s brakes are equal to the 2001 Rams 2500/3500. As well, they are 4 wheel disc as opposed to front disc and rear drum.

You shouldn't tow 5th wheels with 6cy motors. :)

spud1957 wrote:

joebedford wrote:

Ed9824v wrote:
my boy had a 2013 f150 ecoboost with the four doors big ones short bed 3.55 gears, we put a superglide auto slider hitch and air bags in rear, and he pulled a 7900 lbs mt 5th wheel trailer with all the gear generator and fuel and what ever and it pulled like crazy. He flew by my dodge ram diesel 1999 like I was sitting still up the Sherwood grade to the sierras. the weak link seemed to be the brakes up front, got hot, and the mileage was half of my dodge.

Lots of power - no brakes.

Current model F150s have larger brakes than 1999-2004 F250 & 350. Lots of those F250/350s going down the road hauling 12,13,14k lb RVs.


As stated in ALL Ford User Manuals, the brakes are designed to stop the GVWR of the vehicle only. Not the GCWR.

No Compression braking or very little, small CI displacement.

joebedford wrote:
Lots of power - no brakes.

Current model F150s have larger brakes than 1999-2004 F250 & 350. Lots of those F250/350s going down the road hauling 12,13,14k lb RVs.


As stated in ALL Ford User Manuals, the brakes are designed to stop the GVWR of the vehicle only. Not the GCWR.

joebedford wrote:
Lots of power - no brakes.

I think you forget that the trailer brakes stop the trailer and the truck brakes stop the truck. It's not the 70's any more. Modern half tons are much more capable than at any time in the past.

Lots of power - no brakes.

Ed9824v wrote:
my boy had a 2013 f150 ecoboost with the four doors big ones short bed 3.55 gears, we put a superglide auto slider hitch and air bags in rear, and he pulled a 7900 lbs mt 5th wheel trailer with all the gear generator and fuel and what ever and it pulled like crazy. He flew by my dodge ram diesel 1999 like I was sitting still up the Sherwood grade to the sierras. the weak link seemed to be the brakes up front, got hot, and the mileage was half of my dodge.

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Ed So.Calif
1950 Ford F1 street rod
1968 Baha Bug with 2.2 ecotec motor 170 hp, kingcoil
2000 National Sea Breeze 5th wheel trailer
1998.5 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins,4.10 gears,turbo,trans,injectors,oil cooler,lockers,edge EZ, 35" BFG's, air dog lift pump etc.

I like quotes like this, the apples to oranges.

He is pulling a 7,900# 5er past you, what model of 2000 National Sea Breeze do you have the smallest is just shy of 10,000# and the largest is 13,000#.

Not that the F150 Eco-Boost is not a great combination, but the Eco-Boost is rated at 365 HP, and 420 # of torque. It should walk past a stock 98.5 24V Cummins @ 235 HP and 410 # of torque.

Sea Breeze Series
M-2290 9,940

M-2300 10,800#

M-2320 11,690#

M-2330 11,400#

M-2331 11,950#

M-2340 11,740#

M-2360 12,600#

M-2361 12,950#

M-2370 13,100#

Depends on the ratings of the truck and the weight of the trailer. Just remember with a 5er it's more about what you can carry than what you can pull. 20% of the trailers weight is carried in the bed of the truck. A 10,000# loaded 5er will put about 2,000# in the bed of the truck. When you look at a 5er add about 1,000# to the dry weight to get an idea of what the loaded weight will be.

Good luck and do the math.

I pulled my 10K fiver for 3 seasons and 12,000 miles with my 2011 F150 Screw with MAX TOW. Recently traded for a 2015 Super Duty. I had the Reese Sidewinder pinbox to resolve any issues with the 5'7" bed. That is a much better option vs a Superglide that weighs 300 lbs. Honestly, though, the HD Payload option is highly recommended as I was at my GCWR and 600 lbs over my rear GAWR. I added Supersprings and Bilstein HD shocks to help out.

my boy had a 2013 f150 ecoboost with the four doors big ones short bed 3.55 gears, we put a superglide auto slider hitch and air bags in rear, and he pulled a 7900 lbs mt 5th wheel trailer with all the gear generator and fuel and what ever and it pulled like crazy. He flew by my dodge ram diesel 1999 like I was sitting still up the Sherwood grade to the sierras. the weak link seemed to be the brakes up front, got hot, and the mileage was half of my dodge.