weight police?

RinconVTR wrote:

NorthwestBound wrote:
Wow, i would have thought, with all the weight concerns posted here and on other sites, that there would be strict enforcement of some kind of weight regulations.

LOL...your catching on. People here fear monger a LOT. The fear mongerers = weight police.

When you point out there really are few to no weight laws that apply to non-commercial drivers while towing, they change the subject to civil law suits.

And then I ask the same question you did here...show us one example. Just one, to crack the door open for us to consider this as reality.

IMO, even in a civil case, if you had proof someone was towing over any OEM rated capacity (NOT payload...but the ones that matter on a scale...GVW, GCWR, axle ratings, tire ratings) does that mean they were truly negligent and caused the incident? That is VERY difficult to prove unless there is very obvious, gross negligence.


Now, when I saw things like this, those same fear mongering people continue on and finally accuse me of advocating towing over OEM ratings. Well, I said no such thing, nor do I advocate doing so.

I simply have a problem with the unjustified fear that if someone does exceed a rating (knowingly or not) and be involved in an accident, their life is over.

Yep..100% agree...and I have the position that if you cause a wreck and are UNDER all ratings...you are still open for civil suits.

Can you imagine..."Officer, I was under all my weights before the accident." officer..." Well that changes everything! You were under your weights...we are good here." And then the officer says to the family whose lives you just destroyed..."I'm sorry...he was under all his OEM ratings...there are no ramifications for him because he is rig was under all weights."

Absolutely NOT....If you cause wreck you are open to the vengeance of the legal and civil system....towing or not...overloaded or not.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

I'm no law expert by any means, but would causing a wreck under any circumstance still be Like failure to maintain control of their vehicle, speeding, etc. It wouldn't matter whether they were over or under if they can't stop in time does it really matter?
I don't see the difference between someone texting and running a red light or someone towing heavy/light and running a red light.
Where is the line drawn between failure to maintain control vs speeding or something else.

Someone towing over weight probably knows they are. But they also know they're speeding or texting.

Just trying to figure out how being over weight comes into play.

NorthwestBound wrote:
Wow, i would have thought, with all the weight concerns posted here and on other sites, that there would be strict enforcement of some kind of weight regulations.

LOL...your catching on. People here fear monger a LOT. The fear mongerers = weight police.

When you point out there really are few to no weight laws that apply to non-commercial drivers while towing, they change the subject to civil law suits.

And then I ask the same question you did here...show us one example. Just one, to crack the door open for us to consider this as reality.

IMO, even in a civil case, if you had proof someone was towing over any OEM rated capacity (NOT payload...but the ones that matter on a scale...GVW, GCWR, axle ratings, tire ratings) does that mean they were truly negligent and caused the incident? That is VERY difficult to prove unless there is very obvious, gross negligence.


Now, when I saw things like this, those same fear mongering people continue on and finally accuse me of advocating towing over OEM ratings. Well, I said no such thing, nor do I advocate doing so.

I simply have a problem with the unjustified fear that if someone does exceed a rating (knowingly or not) and be involved in an accident, their life is over.

avvidclif1 wrote:
AZDRYHEAT..... Why is it illegal to stop a vehicle to check license status? Driving is a privilege, not a right guaranteed by the constitution. Show me where driving licenses are mentioned in the constitution.

It may be illegal if your stopping vehicles for the type of vehicle and no probable cause, but as they say...guilty till proven innocent.

NorthwestBound wrote:
.. with all the weight concerns posted here and on other sites, that there would be strict enforcement of some kind of weight regulations.

Probably should be, but it appears all the weight police are spending their time on here.

AZDRYHEAT..... Why is it illegal to stop a vehicle to check license status? Driving is a privilege, not a right guaranteed by the constitution. Show me where driving licenses are mentioned in the constitution.

Wow, i would have thought, with all the weight concerns posted here and on other sites, that there would be strict enforcement of some kind of weight regulations.

There are no rules governing over-weight, non-commercial trailers that I'm aware of. But in a wreck with a death, for example, the owner of an over-weight trailer could be held liable for the damages in a civil court.

Not looking for over-weight but in Calif CHP has pulled over toy haulers to check the driver's licence status (which is unconstitutional BTW) for the weight being towed. In Cali, if your trailer's GVWR is more than 15,000 pounds you must have a non-commercial Class A driver's license, which is what CHP is looking for. Same if your motorhome is longer than 40 feet.

Yes, it's just for pickups licensed in Missouri.

fj12ryder wrote:
I've never been pulled over and don't know anyone who has, but in Missouri you can be pulled over and ticketed if you weigh more than you are licensed for. If you have a 12,000 lb. license plate and weigh more than that you get get a ticket for not being properly licensed for the total weight.

is that only for if your licensed there because some states dont sell plates by weight