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May 04, 2016

Why a 5th wheel over a tow trailer?

Want are the big advantages of the 5th wheel compared to a tow trailer? I would like to be able to use my bed of my truck to haul things. My brother in-law says he can back up a tow trailer much easi...
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May 05, 2016
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wing_zealot wrote:
4 pages and no one mentions that for any given truck, you can tow a bigger and heavier TT than a 5 er.

Yes, but longer heaver TT, the more the tail wags the dog. I have stated I would rather see a 1/2 ton pulling/carding an5er slightly over limits (Not Tire), than towing a long heavy TT within limits, FAR more stable!!!

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I would like to be able to use my bed of my truck to haul things. My brother in-law says he can back up a tow trailer much easier than a 5th wheel and the trailers track with no problem. He has worked for a construction company and has used many tow units and likes tow trailers and owns a 27 footer.

Here is want I have below but, I still wished I could pull more safety, like a used 30 foot Dream Suit 5th wheel or a Alpenlite unit that weights around 11,500 dry weight.

I have a 1999 Dodge diesel 2500, Long bed, auto trans, cub cab, 2 wheel drive. The owner manual on page 148 says that this truck can tow maximum trailer weight of 10,200 with 3.54 axle ratio and 12,000 lbs maximum trailer with 4.10 axle ratio. The GCWR is 16,000.

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I would like to be able to use my bed of my truck to haul things. My brother in-law says he can back up a tow trailer much easier than a 5th wheel and the trailers track with no problem. He has worked for a construction company and has used many tow units and likes tow trailers and owns a 27 footer.

Here is want I have below but, I still wished I could pull more safety, like a used 30 foot Dream Suit 5th wheel or a Alpenlite unit that weights around 11,500 dry weight.

I have a 1999 Dodge diesel 2500, Long bed, auto trans, cub cab, 2 wheel drive. The owner manual on page 148 says that this truck can tow maximum trailer weight of 10,200 with 3.54 axle ratio and 12,000 lbs maximum trailer with 4.10 axle ratio. The GCWR is 16,000.

Most everyone on this forum and others said I can only haul a trailer around 9,000 lbs. \"Dry Weight\" safety and do not max out my truck! I plan on being safe."},"Conversation:conversation:2307009":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:2307009","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2307009"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2016-05-05T19:09:14.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2016-05-05T19:09:14.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":55,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2307009":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2307009","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:2307009_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:2307009_1","lastEditTime":"2016-05-03T20:14:54.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2307052":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:2307052","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2307009"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:2086"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":2307052,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"subject":"Re: Why a 5th wheel over a tow trailer?","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2307052"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2307009"},"body":"
wing_zealot wrote:
4 pages and no one mentions that for any given truck, you can tow a bigger and heavier TT than a 5 er.

Yes, but longer heaver TT, the more the tail wags the dog. I have stated I would rather see a 1/2 ton pulling/carding an5er slightly over limits (Not Tire), than towing a long heavy TT within limits, FAR more stable!!!","body@stringLength":"375","rawBody":"
wing_zealot wrote:
4 pages and no one mentions that for any given truck, you can tow a bigger and heavier TT than a 5 er.

Yes, but longer heaver TT, the more the tail wags the dog. I have stated I would rather see a 1/2 ton pulling/carding an5er slightly over limits (Not Tire), than towing a long heavy TT within limits, FAR more 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