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happycamper002
Feb 26, 2017Explorer
Fulltimedaniel wrote:
. . . Now "Needlessly" seems to be the operative term here. Are these higher costs necessary? I don't think so. And it is no insult to say it. Canada is a great country with a great people. But your collective skin can be a bit thin at times.
I have been complained to by many Canadians about Americas crime, our dirty streets, our guns (I dont own one) our politicians and unbelievably about our high costs??? None of it makes me angry. I take it in stride.
Maybe it is because I have spent so much of my life overseas living and working in other countries and hearing what everyone from Palestinians to Indonesians to Canadians think about my country both positive and negative that I take these discussions amiably.
I have been personally blamed by Australians traveling in Indonesia for the treatment of Palestinians by Israel...I pointed out to that person that when (then) President Reagan accepts my calls and my advice I will surely set him straight.
I made no claim in any of my posts which country was better in one way or another only that one was more expensive...even with the exchange rate in our favor. That is a fact as clearly pointed out by the Globe and Mail article. It is also a fact as evidenced by the tens of thousands of Canadians that continue to stream across the border to buy Gas and shop at WalMart and Target and other places in our towns along the border.
If the two countries were more equal in costs this money would go into the Canadian economy and there would be more taxes collected to help pay for your better services in health care and education.
But blaming an outsider for pointing out the obvious seems a bit churlish to me. I look forward to my next trip through Canada coming up here in a few days on my way to Alaska. . . .
End of abbreviated quote.
My response:
I love the articulation but I have to digress.
I have not had a chance to read the original post before it evaporized but (it looks like) that whatever it was it was not the gist of this debate.
When you branded that cost of living as “needlessly” high, you are implying that your observation about a country's economy should be based on what you've seen in the country you're in. . . in this case the US.
This is a rehash of what the Canadian had said which I thought I had to mention for the sake of relevance and decorum, because the original post is “gone with the wind”.
I don't know if you've run a business. I did run my own business for some time in the past.
In a country (Canada) whose economy is based on free enterprise (laissez-faire) which means a business can charge their services as the market is willing to pay.
Customers have the option of patronizing the said business but they are also free not to buy what the business has to offer.
I've lived in Australia where my sister resides permanently which allows me to stay as long as I want. The last time I was there was when the Aussie dollar went through the roof. It rose above the USD by about six cents which means 1 USD was only worth 94 cents in Australia. My profession took me to the jungles of Laos, the offshore oil platforms in Lake Maracaibo, Venezuela to the pristine villages in Northern Thailand to mention a few.
Now the Aussie dollar is worth appprox USD 70 cents.
The rate of exchange wasn't that far off in Canada at that time --they seemed to go hand in hand.
It did cost my USD a lot to buy a whole roasted chicken in down town Melbourne-- 12.00 USD that would only cost 5.75 USD at Sams Club. And how about a pound of banana that did cost me 7 USD.
Hasty generalization based on one instance is faulty reasoning. I've only camped in Canada once sometime back.
Have you camped in other RV Parks on several occasions all in one setting? I'm sure all of them do not charge “needlessly” high. Fierce competition is what makes free enterprise excels that satisfies both seller and buyer.
I don't expect that you or other posters to agree on this. . . but the least we can do is “agree to disagree”.
Happy camping.
. . . Now "Needlessly" seems to be the operative term here. Are these higher costs necessary? I don't think so. And it is no insult to say it. Canada is a great country with a great people. But your collective skin can be a bit thin at times.
I have been complained to by many Canadians about Americas crime, our dirty streets, our guns (I dont own one) our politicians and unbelievably about our high costs??? None of it makes me angry. I take it in stride.
Maybe it is because I have spent so much of my life overseas living and working in other countries and hearing what everyone from Palestinians to Indonesians to Canadians think about my country both positive and negative that I take these discussions amiably.
I have been personally blamed by Australians traveling in Indonesia for the treatment of Palestinians by Israel...I pointed out to that person that when (then) President Reagan accepts my calls and my advice I will surely set him straight.
I made no claim in any of my posts which country was better in one way or another only that one was more expensive...even with the exchange rate in our favor. That is a fact as clearly pointed out by the Globe and Mail article. It is also a fact as evidenced by the tens of thousands of Canadians that continue to stream across the border to buy Gas and shop at WalMart and Target and other places in our towns along the border.
If the two countries were more equal in costs this money would go into the Canadian economy and there would be more taxes collected to help pay for your better services in health care and education.
But blaming an outsider for pointing out the obvious seems a bit churlish to me. I look forward to my next trip through Canada coming up here in a few days on my way to Alaska. . . .
End of abbreviated quote.
My response:
I love the articulation but I have to digress.
I have not had a chance to read the original post before it evaporized but (it looks like) that whatever it was it was not the gist of this debate.
When you branded that cost of living as “needlessly” high, you are implying that your observation about a country's economy should be based on what you've seen in the country you're in. . . in this case the US.
This is a rehash of what the Canadian had said which I thought I had to mention for the sake of relevance and decorum, because the original post is “gone with the wind”.
I don't know if you've run a business. I did run my own business for some time in the past.
In a country (Canada) whose economy is based on free enterprise (laissez-faire) which means a business can charge their services as the market is willing to pay.
Customers have the option of patronizing the said business but they are also free not to buy what the business has to offer.
I've lived in Australia where my sister resides permanently which allows me to stay as long as I want. The last time I was there was when the Aussie dollar went through the roof. It rose above the USD by about six cents which means 1 USD was only worth 94 cents in Australia. My profession took me to the jungles of Laos, the offshore oil platforms in Lake Maracaibo, Venezuela to the pristine villages in Northern Thailand to mention a few.
Now the Aussie dollar is worth appprox USD 70 cents.
The rate of exchange wasn't that far off in Canada at that time --they seemed to go hand in hand.
It did cost my USD a lot to buy a whole roasted chicken in down town Melbourne-- 12.00 USD that would only cost 5.75 USD at Sams Club. And how about a pound of banana that did cost me 7 USD.
Hasty generalization based on one instance is faulty reasoning. I've only camped in Canada once sometime back.
Have you camped in other RV Parks on several occasions all in one setting? I'm sure all of them do not charge “needlessly” high. Fierce competition is what makes free enterprise excels that satisfies both seller and buyer.
I don't expect that you or other posters to agree on this. . . but the least we can do is “agree to disagree”.
Happy camping.
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