Travel with guns

Thank you, Dianne. No more off-topic from me. :)

ALL RIGHT...THAT'S ENOUGH!!!! this thread has set a record for being online and civil.....

remo...you are not helping by posting that statement. I don't want to close this....please get back to the original topic!!!!

Dianne

ps....I am one of ther very few moderators that even allow a gun thread to run. I feel it is vital to fulltimers and those wishing to fulltime, to have good info on the subject of firearms. Those of you who feel it it is your duty to get these threads closed are in the wrong forum. Take it elsewhere.

LenSatic wrote:

camperpaul wrote:

General George S. Patton wrote:
"Freedom has a taste, and for those who have fought for it, the taste is so sweet the protected will never know ..."

On the 30th of March 1959, I took an oath to "… defend The United States and its Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic …".
There is no expiration date on that oath.

Paul,

A lot of us took that oath. But some of us don't want to see this thread closed!

This thread is to help full-timers, or newbies, decide if they want, need, or are comfortable carrying weapons. And, if so, which weapons.

LS

No worries. If this thread is closed, another will open in a day, a week, or a month. Happens again and again and again and again......

camperpaul wrote:

General George S. Patton wrote:
"Freedom has a taste, and for those who have fought for it, the taste is so sweet the protected will never know ..."

On the 30th of March 1959, I took an oath to "… defend The United States and its Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic …".
There is no expiration date on that oath.

Paul,

A lot of us took that oath. But some of us don't want to see this thread closed!

This thread is to help full-timers, or newbies, decide if they want, need, or are comfortable carrying weapons. And, if so, which weapons.

LS

General George S. Patton wrote:
"Freedom has a taste, and for those who have fought for it, the taste is so sweet the protected will never know ..."

On the 30th of March 1959, I took an oath to "… defend The United States and its Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic …".
There is no expiration date on that oath.

My responsibility to protect my family from unjust violence is absolute. I will protect them from anyone. Anyone.

And my oath is to the Constitution. The military, at least, is taught that the Constitution is NOT the same as the government. That's why the public trusts us to protect American values rather than to protect individual politicians, political parties or monarchs. The government is merely a caretaker.

Re: Apaches and tanks...do you seriously think we're winning in Iraq and Afghanistan with tanks, drones and helicopters? Maybe you should watch the news sometime. That equipment might make a bad day for some individuals, but that's the benefit of living for something greater than oneself...many folks are willing to accept bad days to protect something more important.

Good days, peace and comfort are not the most important things in life...but maybe that's something the protected will never truly understand.

CKNSLS wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

We have the right to protect us from our own Government. It's called the Second Amendment.

Protecting from our own Government? We know where you stand.

Yup. He and I and millions of others stand with the Constitution which was written to protect us from the abuses of government.

Read it sometime … it's a fascinating read.

CKNSLS wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

I can purchase a gun because I have been screened for a concealed carry permit. Most anyone else has a waiting period.

We have the RIGHT to own guns,some choose to some don't. We have the right to protect us from our own Government. It's called the Second Amendment.

Protecting from our own Government? We know where you stand. BTW-One armored tank or one Apache gunship will ruin your day....

Stand down, guys. A moderator has advised us to move on. This isn't a 2nd Amendment debate thread.

LS

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Ashbourne wrote:
If I lived in a country where there are 88.9 guns to every 100 persons, I would emigrate immediately. If I had to worry if I'd forgotten my gun, and not my can opener on every holiday trip, I'd stop at home.
The United States of America is a very young country compared to the United Countries of Europe, where 2000 plus years of conflict have revealed that mass gun ownership solves nothing. Yes we do have gun crime, 46 gun related deaths in the last year, compared to about 80 per day in the USA. I understand that in some states you (or a physcopath) can on production of a drivers licence, purchase a gun. No modern forward thinking country would tolerate such puny measures, its probably harder to buy a can of beer, if of course you haven't forgotten your can opener.

I can purchase a gun because I have been screened for a concealed carry permit. Most anyone else has a waiting period.

We have the RIGHT to own guns,some choose to some don't. We have the right to protect us from our own Government. It's called the Second Amendment.

Protecting from our own Government? We know where you stand. BTW-One armored tank or one Apache gunship will ruin your day....

Ashbourne wrote:
If I lived in a country where there are 88.9 guns to every 100 persons, I would emigrate immediately. If I had to worry if I'd forgotten my gun, and not my can opener on every holiday trip, I'd stop at home.
The United States of America is a very young country compared to the United Countries of Europe, where 2000 plus years of conflict have revealed that mass gun ownership solves nothing. Yes we do have gun crime, 46 gun related deaths in the last year, compared to about 80 per day in the USA. I understand that in some states you (or a physcopath) can on production of a drivers licence, purchase a gun. No modern forward thinking country would tolerate such puny measures, its probably harder to buy a can of beer, if of course you haven't forgotten your can opener.

I can purchase a gun because I have been screened for a concealed carry permit. Most anyone else has a waiting period.

We have the RIGHT to own guns,some choose to some don't. We have the right to protect us from our own Government. It's called the Second Amendment.