Travel with guns
When you are a full timer what issues are there with having a gun for protection? Restrictions when crossing state lines? Thank you.
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- moderator note...our friend across the pond voiced his opinion....you all have rebutted beautifully...let's move on now......
DianneOK - I'll try and explain this politely to our friend across the sea. Does America have a problem with gun violence? Yes we do. Is it 80 times per day? No it is not. Right now we have about 40 homicides per day in this Country and all of those are not with guns but, most are. Do we have 88.9 gun to every 100 people? I don't know if that's accurate or not, but it's probably close.
So how do we solve this problem? We probably can't. At this point for the US, strict gun control will probably only make the problem worse for generations to come. Guns are well built and will last for decades or maybe even centuries. Strict gun control now will only serve to disarm the law abiding population. There will still be plenty of guns left for the criminals for a few hundred years and in the meantime the law abiding population who turns in their guns will be victimized for generations. This is why most reasonable Americans are opposed to additional gun control measures.
Maybe the US wouldn't be this way but we had to fight for our freedom from a Monarch and when we won that freedom the founding fathers wanted to make sure the Country couldn't be controlled by a monarch or a dictator in the future. And so far it's worked pretty good over the last few hundred years. Seems we even had to go back and save that Country a couple of times that we won our freedom from. - .deleted by author.
- I think it would have been great to wait 3 more days to say this, but here I go anyway... Thankfully, you Brits don't get to tell us how to live our lives. We are independent.
I hadn't realized that the UK has solved all violence and crime. Didn't I just read about someone being cleaved to death in the streets while everyone stood by and watched?
Your violent crime rate exceeds that of the US violent crime rate. Guns or no guns, it doesn't sound so civilized over there to me.
PS - the UK still has guns, just not (many) handguns. Many of the same rifles we own here in the USA are owned by your next door neighbors in the UK. Ashbourne wrote:
If I lived in a country where there are 88.9 guns to every 100 persons, I would emigrate immediately. If I had to worry if I'd forgotten my gun, and not my can opener on every holiday trip, I'd stop at home.
The United States of America is a very young country compared to the United Countries of Europe, where 2000 plus years of conflict have revealed that mass gun ownership solves nothing. Yes we do have gun crime, 46 gun related deaths in the last year, compared to about 80 per day in the USA. I understand that in some states you (or a physcopath) can on production of a drivers licence, purchase a gun. No modern forward thinking country would tolerate such puny measures, its probably harder to buy a can of beer, if of course you haven't forgotten your can opener.
How many crimes in the UK are committed with hammers?Ashbourne wrote:
If I lived in a country where there are 88.9 guns to every 100 persons, I would emigrate immediately. If I had to worry if I'd forgotten my gun, and not my can opener on every holiday trip, I'd stop at home.
The United States of America is a very young country compared to the United Countries of Europe, where 2000 plus years of conflict have revealed that mass gun ownership solves nothing. Yes we do have gun crime, 46 gun related deaths in the last year, compared to about 80 per day in the USA. I understand that in some states you (or a physcopath) can on production of a drivers licence, purchase a gun. No modern forward thinking country would tolerate such puny measures, its probably harder to buy a can of beer, if of course you haven't forgotten your can opener.
Ashbourne,
This thread has progressed in a civilized manner for 6 pages now. Why did you feel the need to pop off from your lily pad across the pond on a subject that clearly does not concern or effect you?
LS- If I lived in a country where there are 88.9 guns to every 100 persons, I would emigrate immediately. If I had to worry if I'd forgotten my gun, and not my can opener on every holiday trip, I'd stop at home.
The United States of America is a very young country compared to the United Countries of Europe, where 2000 plus years of conflict have revealed that mass gun ownership solves nothing. Yes we do have gun crime, 46 gun related deaths in the last year, compared to about 80 per day in the USA. I understand that in some states you (or a physcopath) can on production of a drivers licence, purchase a gun. No modern forward thinking country would tolerate such puny measures, its probably harder to buy a can of beer, if of course you haven't forgotten your can opener. Thomas Jefferson wrote:
“The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.”Thomas Jefferson wrote:
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“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms … disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes … Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”LaunchnRetrieve wrote:
My take on the gun laws is that if I'm bringing a gun along for protection I don't really care if I'm allowed to or not. I'll never pull a gun on someone and not pull the trigger. If I need to pull the gun, I need to pull the trigger. If I need to pull the trigger I don't really care what the law says. And I sure as hell don't have any way of being in compliance with each state. And being in California the crown jewel of restrictive laws, I'm already out of compliance. So be it.
We are on the same page!- My take on the gun laws is that if I'm bringing a gun along for protection I don't really care if I'm allowed to or not. I'll never pull a gun on someone and not pull the trigger. If I need to pull the gun, I need to pull the trigger. If I need to pull the trigger I don't really care what the law says. And I sure as hell don't have any way of being in compliance with each state. And being in California the crown jewel of restrictive laws, I'm already out of compliance. So be it.
