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tortoise7
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Oct 26, 2017

National General insurance tarnishing Good Sam's reputation

First let me say i have been very pleased with Good Sam roadside service that stepped up to the plate in this accident and got me to a repair facility with the kind of excellent service I expect. However once National General Insurance Company got involved it has been a total nightmare and their tactic is to delay and stall and try to force me to pay the difference between what repair facilities estimate and what their adjusters feel is reasonable above and beyond the deductible in order to reduce their bottom line cost on each claim. I will copy and paste the most recent communication I sent to the manager of my claims adjuster as it fairly summarizes the elements of my case. I will be happy to post back when I get his reply:

Alright Neil

So I wasted another five days contacting Camping World (the first vendor on your list) and they say they can indeed do the repairs for the $4012.44 estimate Kevin wrote. However the earliest they could even give me an appointment to drop off the coach for repairs is December 3 and they said it would take a minimum of three weeks after that to perform the repairs putting us practically (considering the holidays) into January before I get my coach back. Furthermore I am rather skeptical about their time estimates because a close friend of mine has his coach in there for repairs and it has been there for two months and they have not even started the repairs. (yes he also has NGIC and was advised to take his coach there by NGIC). My friend told me that the way it works in most shops is if you bought your coach from them you go to the head of the line and everybody else can just wait especially insurance jobs. Frankly I think Camping World is just saying whatever they need to say to get the coach into their shop and they they can take their sweet time as they are noted to do.

Even if they did meet their time estimates you are asking me to wait and additional eight weeks to save your company $700 while LaMesa will likely have my coach repaired before Camping World could even start on it. There is also another consideration in that rainy season is fast approaching here in California and since the outer skin of my coach has a gaping hole i can envision additional damage from water intrusion in the area of the hole that could cause additional damage calling for more extensive repairs.

In summary it is my position that for an accident that happened on August 14 we are now over ten weeks out and effectively so far about five days of honest work at the first repair facility with three weeks wasted on delays by Diana mishandling of the claim. Now my coach has been at LaMesa and they submitted a estimate on October 3 and here we are close to four weeks later still haggling over prices. Your position seems to be that while you are prohibited by law from dictating what shop I choose to do the repairs you certainly can stall and delay and basically toss it back in my lap and say if you want to eat the $700 things can start moving quickly again. I find this totally unacceptable and feel that I have been more than patient so far but I have hit my limit so I am asking you to consider all of this carefully and find a way to authorize full payment of the $4737.72 LaMesa estimate. I bought my coach at LaMesa, know the quality of their work and have always been promptly attended to with no delays. In view of the time already wasted on this matter I do not feel I am being unreasonable in declining to wait a minimum of another eight weeks to save your company $700.

I would appreciate a reply from you by end of business tomorrow Thursday 10/26 and if you decline this final plea I will pursue other avenues climbing the chain of command at NGIC and failing that filing a formal complaint with the California Department of Insurance. In addition I have carefully documented all aspects of the mishandling of this claim my NGIC and I can assure you that I will widely publicize on popular forums such as http://www.winnieowners.com/forums/, and http://www.irv2.com/forums/ just to mention two were I am a regular and the subject of how insurance companies treat their clients is a very popular source of discussion and many new owners make the choice of what company to use based on posted reviews of users. I seriously doubt that the GoodSam organization will appreciate my reviews if this matter is not brought to a very swift conclusion. I am retired and have a lot more time than money so I can assure you it would be in the best interest of your company not to delay this matter any longer.

19 Replies

  • DownTheAvenue wrote:
    Quit wasting your time. Send a statement to the insurance company that you have documented that they are acting in bad faith. Then go to your state's insurance commissioner and tell them you have documented the insurance company acting in bad faith. That term is important; it is a legal definition that gets their attention. It is important that you put the insurance company on notice using the "bad faith" term, and it is equally important that you make the commissioner aware you have accurate documentation.

    I bet things change quickly after you do what I have suggested.

    At the same time, you may want to consider hiring a private adjuster. They usually charge 10% of the loss, but provide you with an independent estimate of the repair costs.



    DownTheAvenue,

    Thank you for that important legal term because that is exactly what I know is going on. I will include that in my next reply to the insurance company and I have copies of each and every email and I followed up each phone call with an email summarizing the content of the conversation with date and time and who I spoke to. I am saving the insurance commission as a last resort but will not hesitate to file as my next step if current efforts are not productive.

    I sent my contact information to Ella on the Good Sam Care Team per her request above and expect NGIC will be hearing from them soon. I don't honestly believe Good Sam is aware of how blatant NGIC is about acting in bad faith as all of my other dealings with Good Sam have been very satisfactory and their personnel seem to genuinely try to do a good job.
  • Please be sure to follow up with us regarding your situation. I'm sure that you and I are not the only ones with NGIC.
  • Quit wasting your time. Send a statement to the insurance company that you have documented that they are acting in bad faith. Then go to your state's insurance commissioner and tell them you have documented the insurance company acting in bad faith. That term is important; it is a legal definition that gets their attention. It is important that you put the insurance company on notice using the "bad faith" term, and it is equally important that you make the commissioner aware you have accurate documentation.

    I bet things change quickly after you do what I have suggested.

    At the same time, you may want to consider hiring a private adjuster. They usually charge 10% of the loss, but provide you with an independent estimate of the repair costs.
  • Hello tortoise7,

    Thank you for contacting Good Sam, I apologize for the experience you are having getting your Winnebago repaired. Please provide your contact number in a private message and I will look into this further.

    Thank you,
    Ella
    Good Sam Care Team
  • I thought it was a No Good Insurance Company!

    Ha ha ha.

    Sorry to hear about your problems.
  • jbeliera wrote:
    What do the initials NGIC stand for? Sorry it is not clear who they are in your complaint


    Scottiemom beat me to it.

    National General Insurance Company?

    Good Sam is not an insurance company, they are a broker, essentially a middle man. Someone underwrites the RV policies that bear their name.

    From what I can tell on this and other boards as well as personal experience, Good Sam needs no help hurting their reputation from NGIC nor anyone else.
  • What do the initials NGIC stand for? Sorry it is not clear who they are in your complaint

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