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luberhill
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Jun 30, 2018

1989 Class A,,,question on value :)

Ok we have been looking for a used unit to see IF we will like the RV life..local dealer has a 1989 Winne class A 22k miles very solid and nice condition... He said they are asking just under 15k.......
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Mile High wrote:
map40 wrote:
Mile High wrote:
map40 wrote:
Mile High wrote:
map40 wrote:
Mile High wrote:
map40 wrote:
Mile High wrote:
It's at a Dealer, of course it's overpriced :)

Rentals can be rode hard and put away wet, and even the best maintenance program can't prevent that. Not saying they are all that way, but many are.


I have 7 rentals, some retired rentals, some bought brand new, none of them had any engine/trans problems. I have kept them up to 300K miles. Currently I have units raging from 50K to 170K miles, never an engine/trans problem. Good for you! I already stated "not all are that way, but many are" Perhaps yours are the exception.

The thought that rentals are rode hard and put away wet is a mith from the past. New motorhomes can take the use they give with no problems. Now that is "salesman talk" in full color! :)

By the way, we monitor EVERYTHING in the motorhome live, ebyond a little speeding, not much else... "Everything??" Perhaps there is a market for the videos of those live spring break parties :) You know, the kind where 100 people off the beach use it for a bathroom, walking over the vomit, spilled beer, lovers and crushed cigarettes.

As far as your rig goes, yes, way overpriced. I have a 2000 National Dolphin with 2 slideouts, Banks power system, new washer/dryer, everything working, 50K miles, excellent condition, brand new 40 inch and 32 inch smart TVs, batteries 1 year old, 2013 tires, air suspension, 5500 generator, and a lot more. I am thinking to sell it for 17K, and the buyer can rent it before purchase, use it, check it out, and the cost of the rental can be deducted from the purchase price. That will give you an idea on the prices. You might have confused me with someone interested in buying a rental. I think that was the OP. I had one, a "U-Haul" and it was rode hard and put away wet, and I continued that abuse throughout my ownership back in my 20s. It was the party wagon


And just in case, I do know EVERYTHING. Lateral G forces, throttle position, tank levels, genny load/usage, toilet flushes, tank levels, even if the fridge door is left open.
Do you really get your renters to believe all this BS? :) Do you throw "toilet flushes" back at them to keep the deposit?

You would be surprised how many things happen all over the world that people who believe they are smart think are BS. But then again, how would you know, you surely think you are smart enough to know better...
Instead of flapping your jowls like a frustrated plaid suit salesman, throw us a bone. Tell us exactly how you live monitor toilet flushes on your rented RVs. You may make me a "believer" - who knows.

I don't flap my jowls, you are the one with the derogatory ignorant remarks. A simple flow meter on the pipe feeding the toilet will do the job. Why? If it measures a long flush, alarm goes off, alerting the user that the toilet valve is not completely closed, leaking into the black tank. $10 on ebay. You want to monitor remotelly? Get the smart one, $15. It saved my units from flooding several times.
Once your rig is on-line 24/7, everything is possible. Smart timer in the fridge light tells me of an unintentional open fridge. After 15 seconds starts to sound, just like the fridge in your house, alerting the renter. Another $18 well spent.
Now that you have hijacked this thread with your incredible inability to grasp things that are well beyond your comprehension, let me get it back on point. I will simplify so even you can understand:
RV overpriced. Compare price to the one I gave. Draw conclusions. Find another one or pay less.

By the way, how did you get to be a "mile high"? I would say smoking and snorting... Do yourself a favor and let it go. It is sad to see you grab whatever small piece of text to make a case of an argument that is by definition non-existent and of no value to the OP
Hmmm, I'm not finding that $10 flow alarm. Perhaps you could post a link, even for the $15 wifi one. I'll belay any response to your comments to see if you can produce a link, as you have perked my interest in the technical side - the rest of the conversation went to the trash can a few volleys back.

I told you it was sad to see you clinging to a stupid persuit, but here it goes. Maybe you will learn something if you correct your craneal-anal inversion. Here are the links I have handy on my tablet:
https://www.sensirion.com/en/flow-sensors/liquid-flow-meters/slx-standalone-liquid-flow-meters/compact-liquid-flow-sensor-for-industrial-applications/
This is the same sensor I use, but newer. I buy them used and hook them up to a BT adapter connected to an LG tablet that runs the rig.
For your fridge, https://www.delcity.net/store/Time-Delay-Relays/p_804415.h_804416.r_IF1003?mkwid=s4u6UKfnC&crid=38094426869&mp_kw=&mp_mt=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpvzZBRCbARIsACe8vyISCpq6zjrF-ZqiarOGAYlfRfqUE1Z9G97jzQG8_V9GesYSqMK1W6MaAtS2EALw_wcB
Set it to 15 seconds, add a BT buzzer also connected to the LG tablet.
By the way, you keep calling me salesman. That I'm not, as I'm yet to sell an RV. All the ones that left the fleet was because the renters came back and offered enough money.
I gave a single piece of advice to a fellow RVer so he could compare prices. From that you took off. I'm sorry to see you have nothing better to do then question things beyond your understanding, look at simple advice or basic technology that has been around for decades. Be happy being an ass and enjoy the links that don't exist.

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He said they are asking just under 15k....im thinking this is way overpriced even if it is mint...but I really don know...its a gas engine
Is this even worth considering or am I gonna be Eddie from Christmas Vacation :)
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He said they are asking just under 15k....im thinking this is way overpriced even if it is mint...but I really don know...its a gas engine
Is this even worth considering or am I gonna be Eddie from Christmas Vacation :)
Or should this thing be junked !"},"Conversation:conversation:2990905":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:2990905","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2990905"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2018-07-06T20:18:39.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2018-07-06T20:18:39.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":31,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2990905":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2990905","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:2990905_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:2990905_1","lastEditTime":"2018-06-30T05:18:07.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2990931":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:2990931","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2990905"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:230059"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":2990931,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"subject":"Re: 1989 Class A,,,question on value :)","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2990931"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2990905"},"body":"
Mile High wrote:
map40 wrote:
Mile High wrote:
map40 wrote:
Mile High wrote:
map40 wrote:
Mile High wrote:
map40 wrote:
Mile High wrote:
It's at a Dealer, of course it's overpriced :)

Rentals can be rode hard and put away wet, and even the best maintenance program can't prevent that. Not saying they are all that way, but many are.


I have 7 rentals, some retired rentals, some bought brand new, none of them had any engine/trans problems. I have kept them up to 300K miles. Currently I have units raging from 50K to 170K miles, never an engine/trans problem. Good for you! I already stated \"not all are that way, but many are\" Perhaps yours are the exception.

The thought that rentals are rode hard and put away wet is a mith from the past. New motorhomes can take the use they give with no problems. Now that is \"salesman talk\" in full color! :)

By the way, we monitor EVERYTHING in the motorhome live, ebyond a little speeding, not much else... \"Everything??\" Perhaps there is a market for the videos of those live spring break parties :) You know, the kind where 100 people off the beach use it for a bathroom, walking over the vomit, spilled beer, lovers and crushed cigarettes.

As far as your rig goes, yes, way overpriced. I have a 2000 National Dolphin with 2 slideouts, Banks power system, new washer/dryer, everything working, 50K miles, excellent condition, brand new 40 inch and 32 inch smart TVs, batteries 1 year old, 2013 tires, air suspension, 5500 generator, and a lot more. I am thinking to sell it for 17K, and the buyer can rent it before purchase, use it, check it out, and the cost of the rental can be deducted from the purchase price. That will give you an idea on the prices. You might have confused me with someone interested in buying a rental. I think that was the OP. I had one, a \"U-Haul\" and it was rode hard and put away wet, and I continued that abuse throughout my ownership back in my 20s. It was the party wagon


And just in case, I do know EVERYTHING. Lateral G forces, throttle position, tank levels, genny load/usage, toilet flushes, tank levels, even if the fridge door is left open.
Do you really get your renters to believe all this BS? :) Do you throw \"toilet flushes\" back at them to keep the deposit?

You would be surprised how many things happen all over the world that people who believe they are smart think are BS. But then again, how would you know, you surely think you are smart enough to know better...
Instead of flapping your jowls like a frustrated plaid suit salesman, throw us a bone. Tell us exactly how you live monitor toilet flushes on your rented RVs. You may make me a \"believer\" - who knows.

I don't flap my jowls, you are the one with the derogatory ignorant remarks. A simple flow meter on the pipe feeding the toilet will do the job. Why? If it measures a long flush, alarm goes off, alerting the user that the toilet valve is not completely closed, leaking into the black tank. $10 on ebay. You want to monitor remotelly? Get the smart one, $15. It saved my units from flooding several times.
Once your rig is on-line 24/7, everything is possible. Smart timer in the fridge light tells me of an unintentional open fridge. After 15 seconds starts to sound, just like the fridge in your house, alerting the renter. Another $18 well spent.
Now that you have hijacked this thread with your incredible inability to grasp things that are well beyond your comprehension, let me get it back on point. I will simplify so even you can understand:
RV overpriced. Compare price to the one I gave. Draw conclusions. Find another one or pay less.

By the way, how did you get to be a \"mile high\"? I would say smoking and snorting... Do yourself a favor and let it go. It is sad to see you grab whatever small piece of text to make a case of an argument that is by definition non-existent and of no value to the OP
Hmmm, I'm not finding that $10 flow alarm. Perhaps you could post a link, even for the $15 wifi one. I'll belay any response to your comments to see if you can produce a link, as you have perked my interest in the technical side - the rest of the conversation went to the trash can a few volleys back.

I told you it was sad to see you clinging to a stupid persuit, but here it goes. Maybe you will learn something if you correct your craneal-anal inversion. Here are the links I have handy on my tablet:
https://www.sensirion.com/en/flow-sensors/liquid-flow-meters/slx-standalone-liquid-flow-meters/compact-liquid-flow-sensor-for-industrial-applications/
This is the same sensor I use, but newer. I buy them used and hook them up to a BT adapter connected to an LG tablet that runs the rig.
For your fridge, https://www.delcity.net/store/Time-Delay-Relays/p_804415.h_804416.r_IF1003?mkwid=s4u6UKfnC&crid=38094426869&mp_kw=&mp_mt=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpvzZBRCbARIsACe8vyISCpq6zjrF-ZqiarOGAYlfRfqUE1Z9G97jzQG8_V9GesYSqMK1W6MaAtS2EALw_wcB
Set it to 15 seconds, add a BT buzzer also connected to the LG tablet.
By the way, you keep calling me salesman. That I'm not, as I'm yet to sell an RV. All the ones that left the fleet was because the renters came back and offered enough money.
I gave a single piece of advice to a fellow RVer so he could compare prices. From that you took off. I'm sorry to see you have nothing better to do then question things beyond your understanding, look at simple advice or basic technology that has been around for decades. Be happy being an ass and enjoy the links that don't exist.","body@stringLength":"6074","rawBody":"
Mile High wrote:
map40 wrote:
Mile High wrote:
map40 wrote:
Mile High wrote:
map40 wrote:
Mile High wrote:
map40 wrote:
Mile High wrote:
It's at a Dealer, of course it's overpriced :)

Rentals can be rode hard and put away wet, and even the best maintenance program can't prevent that. Not saying they are all that way, but many are.


I have 7 rentals, some retired rentals, some bought brand new, none of them had any engine/trans problems. I have kept them up to 300K miles. Currently I have units raging from 50K to 170K miles, never an engine/trans problem. Good for you! I already stated \"not all are that way, but many are\" Perhaps yours are the exception.

The thought that rentals are rode hard and put away wet is a mith from the past. New motorhomes can take the use they give with no problems. Now that is \"salesman talk\" in full color! :)

By the way, we monitor EVERYTHING in the motorhome live, ebyond a little speeding, not much else... \"Everything??\" Perhaps there is a market for the videos of those live spring break parties :) You know, the kind where 100 people off the beach use it for a bathroom, walking over the vomit, spilled beer, lovers and crushed cigarettes.

As far as your rig goes, yes, way overpriced. I have a 2000 National Dolphin with 2 slideouts, Banks power system, new washer/dryer, everything working, 50K miles, excellent condition, brand new 40 inch and 32 inch smart TVs, batteries 1 year old, 2013 tires, air suspension, 5500 generator, and a lot more. I am thinking to sell it for 17K, and the buyer can rent it before purchase, use it, check it out, and the cost of the rental can be deducted from the purchase price. That will give you an idea on the prices. You might have confused me with someone interested in buying a rental. I think that was the OP. I had one, a \"U-Haul\" and it was rode hard and put away wet, and I continued that abuse throughout my ownership back in my 20s. It was the party wagon


And just in case, I do know EVERYTHING. Lateral G forces, throttle position, tank levels, genny load/usage, toilet flushes, tank levels, even if the fridge door is left open.
Do you really get your renters to believe all this BS? :) Do you throw \"toilet flushes\" back at them to keep the deposit?

You would be surprised how many things happen all over the world that people who believe they are smart think are BS. But then again, how would you know, you surely think you are smart enough to know better...
Instead of flapping your jowls like a frustrated plaid suit salesman, throw us a bone. Tell us exactly how you live monitor toilet flushes on your rented RVs. You may make me a \"believer\" - who knows.

I don't flap my jowls, you are the one with the derogatory ignorant remarks. A simple flow meter on the pipe feeding the toilet will do the job. Why? If it measures a long flush, alarm goes off, alerting the user that the toilet valve is not completely closed, leaking into the black tank. $10 on ebay. You want to monitor remotelly? Get the smart one, $15. It saved my units from flooding several times.
Once your rig is on-line 24/7, everything is possible. Smart timer in the fridge light tells me of an unintentional open fridge. After 15 seconds starts to sound, just like the fridge in your house, alerting the renter. Another $18 well spent.
Now that you have hijacked this thread with your incredible inability to grasp things that are well beyond your comprehension, let me get it back on point. I will simplify so even you can understand:
RV overpriced. Compare price to the one I gave. Draw conclusions. Find another one or pay less.

By the way, how did you get to be a \"mile high\"? I would say smoking and snorting... Do yourself a favor and let it go. It is sad to see you grab whatever small piece of text to make a case of an argument that is by definition non-existent and of no value to the OP
Hmmm, I'm not finding that $10 flow alarm. Perhaps you could post a link, even for the $15 wifi one. I'll belay any response to your comments to see if you can produce a link, as you have perked my interest in the technical side - the rest of the conversation went to the trash can a few volleys back.

I told you it was sad to see you clinging to a stupid persuit, but here it goes. Maybe you will learn something if you correct your craneal-anal inversion. Here are the links I have handy on my tablet:
https://www.sensirion.com/en/flow-sensors/liquid-flow-meters/slx-standalone-liquid-flow-meters/compact-liquid-flow-sensor-for-industrial-applications/
This is the same sensor I use, but newer. I buy them used and hook them up to a BT adapter connected to an LG tablet that runs the rig.
For your fridge, https://www.delcity.net/store/Time-Delay-Relays/p_804415.h_804416.r_IF1003?mkwid=s4u6UKfnC&crid=38094426869&mp_kw=&mp_mt=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpvzZBRCbARIsACe8vyISCpq6zjrF-ZqiarOGAYlfRfqUE1Z9G97jzQG8_V9GesYSqMK1W6MaAtS2EALw_wcB
Set it to 15 seconds, add a BT buzzer also connected to the LG tablet.
By the way, you keep calling me salesman. That I'm not, as I'm yet to sell an RV. All the ones that left the fleet was because the renters came back and offered enough money.
I gave a single piece of advice to a fellow RVer so he could compare prices. From that you took off. I'm sorry to see you have nothing better to do then question things beyond your understanding, look at simple advice or basic technology that has been around for decades. 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