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Aug 19, 2016

2017 View/Navion 24G

The 24G has enough new and changed features to where I am considering trading out of my Navion iQ CL. There are few questions I have that maybe someone who owns a 24G can answer. The 24G comes with alloy wheels. However, the two inside rear and the spare are factory steel wheels which I am OK with. After reading a bit, I am not certain that I like the idea of mixing wheel types if it is just for looks and maybe a slight increase in load capacity. The local dealer has suggested that they would, if I preferred, factory wheels and different tires giving me some credit for the alloy wheels and take-off tires. The Michelin tires that I have now after 15,000 miles have been better than the original Continentals. Enough improvement in my opinion to make that change at the start.

The floor inside is raised a bit more than the cab so that even when the cab seats are raised up and turned around, seat booster cushions are necessary and listed as an optional expense. They feel a little awkward when seated on them; just feel a little tippy when you lean a bit.

There are more sleeping spaces than there are seat belts (3). Especially with the cab-over bunk. Obviously, the 24G is for empty nesters.

The standard tankless hot water heater has a circulating system so that hot water is instantly available at the fixtures farthest away from the heater. Nice trick, but I still would like to know how that is done. Currently, the bathroom sink nearly fills before hot water is available in our RV.

Winnebago applied a little magic to create a larger slide out to accommodate a dinette that will seat four people. Some compromises had to be made elsewhere to not make the motorhome larger on the outside. One trick is the swinging bathroom sink. I am not completely sure there is enough room inside with the door closed to move it over the toilet or the shower while standing inside. A bit snug, but that is the reality of a motorhome that can park in places other rigs can't.

The dinette table has two inset cupholders near the window side. I see them as an annoyance for two people seated there for a meal or playing cards. They must use something very sharp to cut such a clean hole through a foam core table top. Nice. I still could do without the holes. I used the ones on my boat for sure. None on any plane that I have flown on. Always seems that the only time we hit bad air is when beverages are served, but still I have yet to spill anything in more than 50 years of air travel. Cup holders are for cookie crumbs, paper clips, loose coins and pills you should have taken but could not find. My opinion.

The privacy door that closes off the rear bedroom has nothing keep it from swinging open if the the coach is not perfectly level.

The full body paint option adds more than $6,000 over the standard 'Graphics' package of decals and such. I actually prefer the 'look' of the standard package. Is the full body paint more durable to justify the expense?

Do the slide outs run off of the chassis battery or the coach battery? The dealer that I visited started the engine first before showing us the interior with the slides in. I seemed to know a little more about this rig than the salesperson showing it, but I chalk it up to having driven a Skinny Winnie for nearly 60,000 miles and I read some stuff on the Internet. The 24G was brand new on the lot, and with so many different models, they had not had time to get completely familiar. Right now we don't have slide outs and that was sort of intentional. Maybe that was because I know too many people that have had issues. Should I assume current designs are more reliable?

I just remembered; I think I saw some speakers mounted on the outside. Other than tailgating, when would you be able to use them and not tick off your neighbors? I see them everywhere, but never heard anyone using them. A friend has outside speakers on his 5th wheel and I am not impressed with the sound. If it were up to me, I would eliminate them and put in a way to transmit the sound to portable Bluetooth speakers (or headphones).

Over the years, I have done quite a bit of modifications to my Navion and now it's nearly the way I want it. If I can't get a new one close to my preferences, I will run the wheels off what we have.

I do like the idea of LED lights over the power hungry halogen ones that burn my fingers. The built-in 1,000 Watt inverter is a nice touch.

Not having to climb over my wife and 85 pound Lab to get out of bed would be nice. The other day I smash a toe into the corner and ouch. Black and blue.

Some news from 24G owners would be great.
  • We bought a used 24G this year (after owning an LTV Class B Sprinter), and we're happy with it after a five-week trip this summer.

    Can't really help you on the 2017 model differences, and we have a sofa in the front slide (no evil cupholders:B) but I can give input on a few things.

    We have a Lippert slide system and one of the two living room slide motors conked out soon after we got it. Don't know what brand they use now. It was annoying to have to take it into the shop, but it was a fast fix and the slides really make a huge positive difference for me.

    We don't have the chair boosters. I use those front chairs as is every night and find them very comfortable (even after riding in it all day facing the other way). I just raise to the max height, and lower the arm rest if I need to lean on something to stand up. It's very fast and easy to swivel the seats, which was a concern I had, and it utilizes the front cab space as part of your living room. The ride up front is considerably more comfortable for driver and passenger than our 2006 Sprinter cab was.

    Ours came with some nice options like full body paint - our previous van had decals. After 10 years on the road, all the van's decals were faded, worn and peeling. The Navion has been on the road since 2012 and the paint makes the RV look brand new. Can't tell you how long it will hold up, or whether it's worth $6K, but it really looks great IMHO.

    Agree re the speakers. Never use them, never will.

    We're really happy with the back queen bed, and sleep very well on it. I expected a hassle with folding down the top third, but it's not a big deal. Ours does not have a door to the bedroom (came with a heavy curtain we don't use.)

    Like all the bathroom storage and we just did some mods to add extra shelves in tall spaces. We have a fixed sink.

    We don't have/need a toad. Our old van which we loved was showing its age and was a little too tight after a big dog joined us. The amount of space inside now is a considerable difference, yet it's still quite nimble to drive and we're getting 15-16 mpg. We got a great trade-in on the van, and the 24G is has turned out to be winner for our needs. YMMV.
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    Bumpyroad wrote:
    Flarpswitch wrote:

    The full body paint option adds more than $6,000 over the standard 'Graphics' package of decals and such. I actually prefer the 'look' of the standard package. Is the full body paint more durable to justify the expense?
    .


    IMHO ego sells more full body paint than need.

    is that the model where the bed is split and the bottom has to hinge up to get the rear slide in?
    bumpy

    The mattress is divided roughly in thirds where the part at the head of the bed is lifted and put on the bottom part to allow the slide (3ft) to come in. The new memory foam mattress is an improvement in previous ones that I have tried out.
  • We don't have one but have been looking at them for 2 weeks, and test drove one. The aluminum wheels are standard. The bed does buckle in the middle, but you can get to the contents through the outside also. From the inside, it looks like a challenge.

    The problem we have with it is OCCC. If you get the "standard" options that every dealer seems to order, plus bed over cab and diesel gen set, the OCCC is probably less than 1000lbs. If 3 people are travelling, you will probably go over the OCCC, no matter what you do. We saw one with all the bells we wanted, minus the overhead bed, and it had 1086lbs OCCC. I believe the bed adds 120lbs., comparing other models that are identical but with and without overhead bed.

    We are now in stop mode after the OCCC problem. We travel very light, and just 2 of us, plus one cat. The two other models have 100-200lbs more OCCC.

    I'm with you on the stupid outside speaker thing.
  • Flarpswitch wrote:

    The full body paint option adds more than $6,000 over the standard 'Graphics' package of decals and such. I actually prefer the 'look' of the standard package. Is the full body paint more durable to justify the expense?
    .


    IMHO ego sells more full body paint than need.

    is that the model where the bed is split and the bottom has to hinge up to get the rear slide in?
    bumpy
  • j-d's avatar
    j-d
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    Speaking of Aluminum Wheels, most dually installations have alum on only the Outers. The Inners stay steel. I think part of it is the OEM lugs aren't long enough to mount two alum wheels since they're thicker than OEM steel wheels.

    EDIT: Probably not possible to use dual alum wheels, even by changing the wheel studs to longer ones. Thinking back the way ours (Ford) is, the portion of the hub surface that "pilots" the wheels (supporting the load) probably doesn't extend far enough to support two thicker wheels...

    Also, some alum are polished on only one side. In other words, the "dished" side of the rears is polished and the "domed" side of the fronts is polished. Owners of a rig with alum could have three different wheels: Front Alum, Rear Outer Alum, Rear Inner (maybe Spare too) Steel.

    We've owned (still have) one vehicle with Aluminum Wheels. They ARE pretty, new. After awhile they get scarred and we had ours professionally refinished. Now that coating is peeling. They're pretty, there's a slight weight advantage (18-wheelers take advantage of that, to stay under max CCWR), and an alum wheel should run a little more true than stamped steel. I'm not sensitive enough to feel any difference.

    I'm saying, I'd pass, given the choice again...