Antifreeze in Fleetwood Pusher
I have a Bounder Diesel Pusher with C7 Cat. I have called Freightliner, Fleetwood, Cat. to find the captivity for a change of antifreeze in the unit (34H). Cat thinks its 9-1/2 gallons without heater,...
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Brett,
This is what I have found out. It is from a Freightliner Factory Rep.
One of the most asked questions at shows and rallies is what kind of coolant is in my chassis. We use Fleet Charge SCA Pre Charged Coolant Anti-Freeze for Heavy Duty Engines as factory fill. Yes, we put the coolant in, not
Caterpillar, or Cummins and it meets both engine manufacturers coolant requirements. Fleet Charge is formulated by Old World Industries, Inc. Fleet Charge is also private labeled under Alliance SCA Pre Charged Coolant Anti-Freeze for Heavy Duty Engines for Freightliner. There is a popular myth that if coolant is green it is Ethylene Glycol and if its pink or purple its is Extended Life Coolant (ELC) this is not true. Fleet Charge is an ethylene glycol coolant with a Supplemental
Coolant Additive (SCA) and is pink in color. Fleet Charge is chemically compatible with all coolants including (ELC) coolant,
however it is not recommended you mix it with (ELC) because it negates any extended life characteristics.
A very important part of maintenance is to maintain the proper (SCA) level and freeze point of your coolant. It is recommended that you check the (SCA) level and freeze point every 6 months or 25, 000 miles and bring both back to proper levels. Checking (SCA) and freeze point can be done with a test strip. Proper levels can be maintained by topping
off with Fleet Charge or Alliance brand coolant. SCA is added on the Cummins ISB and Caterpillar 3126E in liquid form, the Cummins ISC, ISL, ISM have coolant filters that should be changed. If you have a 2002 model year chassis or newer and continue to maintain the (SCA) and freeze point every 6 months or 25,000 miles the coolant will last for 5 years or 100,000 miles. If your chassis is 2001 model year and earlier or this maintenance has not been done then it must be changed after 2 years or 60,000 miles.
So it seems as if the mechanic was technically right, but it might not be a good idea to do it. I also found out Fleet Charge and Alliance are the same thing and Alliance is available at NAPA stores and Fleet Charge at Freightliner. If I'd have only known. What I get out of the above is if I mix ELC and Alliance the ELC will lose its extended life characteristics but the SCAs can be maintained by adding it. Anyway you are right, it needs to be changed no matter what.
This is what I have found out. It is from a Freightliner Factory Rep.
One of the most asked questions at shows and rallies is what kind of coolant is in my chassis. We use Fleet Charge SCA Pre Charged Coolant Anti-Freeze for Heavy Duty Engines as factory fill. Yes, we put the coolant in, not
Caterpillar, or Cummins and it meets both engine manufacturers coolant requirements. Fleet Charge is formulated by Old World Industries, Inc. Fleet Charge is also private labeled under Alliance SCA Pre Charged Coolant Anti-Freeze for Heavy Duty Engines for Freightliner. There is a popular myth that if coolant is green it is Ethylene Glycol and if its pink or purple its is Extended Life Coolant (ELC) this is not true. Fleet Charge is an ethylene glycol coolant with a Supplemental
Coolant Additive (SCA) and is pink in color. Fleet Charge is chemically compatible with all coolants including (ELC) coolant,
however it is not recommended you mix it with (ELC) because it negates any extended life characteristics.
A very important part of maintenance is to maintain the proper (SCA) level and freeze point of your coolant. It is recommended that you check the (SCA) level and freeze point every 6 months or 25, 000 miles and bring both back to proper levels. Checking (SCA) and freeze point can be done with a test strip. Proper levels can be maintained by topping
off with Fleet Charge or Alliance brand coolant. SCA is added on the Cummins ISB and Caterpillar 3126E in liquid form, the Cummins ISC, ISL, ISM have coolant filters that should be changed. If you have a 2002 model year chassis or newer and continue to maintain the (SCA) and freeze point every 6 months or 25,000 miles the coolant will last for 5 years or 100,000 miles. If your chassis is 2001 model year and earlier or this maintenance has not been done then it must be changed after 2 years or 60,000 miles.
So it seems as if the mechanic was technically right, but it might not be a good idea to do it. I also found out Fleet Charge and Alliance are the same thing and Alliance is available at NAPA stores and Fleet Charge at Freightliner. If I'd have only known. What I get out of the above is if I mix ELC and Alliance the ELC will lose its extended life characteristics but the SCAs can be maintained by adding it. Anyway you are right, it needs to be changed no matter what.
