Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

ro_sie wrote:
LouLawrence, Dont forget, if this isnt for you, you dont have to read it. Lots of other things to read, even books. ;)

LouLawrence wrote:
I can or cannot read and or post as I please. I don't need your help and I certainly don't need your permission!

ro_sie wrote:
LouLawrence, of course you dont and you are correct. You can do as you please, as will I. Best of luck to you and I hope we can be friends as I feel sure many other people here feel the same way.

fx2tom wrote:

LouLawrence wrote:
I can or cannot read and or post as I please. I don't need your help and I certainly don't need your permission!

You are correct but if you are contributing absolutely nothing to the thread then why even be here? Seriously? You just want to knock someone's work? Surely, you must have something better to do with your time. Just avoid the thread and move on, it's the decent thing to do.

Hey, we are all here for one of probably 4 reasons.

1. Learn something.

2. Laugh at the work/worker.

3. Shake your head in disbelief.

4. Just like traveling down the road in an rv ... wanting to see what is around the next corner, or over the next hill. Ya just never know what's coming. Lol.

Worst case scenario - It's good for a laugh. Enjoy!

LouLawrence wrote:

BigRabbitMan wrote:
I spent from 2010 to 2014 removing my engine and transmission and cleaning up and adding three layers to the firewall and installing a more modern engine and transmission.

Oh God! There might be 3 more years just working on the engine and transmission?

No. Even IF necessary, rebuilding/replacing an engine and tranny, is not a 3 year job, at least for this rig.

BigRabbitMan wrote:
I spent from 2010 to 2014 removing my engine and transmission and cleaning up and adding three layers to the firewall and installing a more modern engine and transmission. I also replaced the original gas stove and oven with an induction cook top and convection oven. And guess what - my coach is older than his!

What happened afterward? I have put 60,000 miles on my new and improved coach. I keep passing the new coaches on the grades!

Sure glad that I didn’t “stick a fork in it”!!

Thanks for the testimonial.

LouLawrence wrote:
Had I had the time and expertise to (actually) restore my old 1988 bus I would have preferred that to the newer one we now own. Since I had neither I had to give it up and pay big bucks for something someone else did have the to money fix. While it's the same chassis and manufacturer, this one is not 1/2 the bus the old one was as far as livability goes but we fought a good fight over the last 10 years. Our biggest issues was the drive train as it was simply too old to be kept in working order as most all the tech's who knew how it worked are all now dead and there is zero support from the manufacturer of the engine or transmission.
We did our own interior remodels multiple times but all comfort and livability issues were kept within lines of the original as it was good then and even better now. This "thing" will be unique and once the inside gets finished we can all find out if it will actually run as that has yet to be addressed.

Drive trains can be changed, if you find the correct shop to do so.

One thing I learned from when I had a real job years working in a manufacturing plant was, if it's not working/meeting the need, then figure out how to make it work/meet the need at hand.

Sometimes, that may involve minor changes, other times maybe a serious overhaul.

This "thing" will run. I am not worried about that.

navegator wrote:
As long as you enjoy doing what you are doing and have fun, that is all that counts!

So what that it is an older RV, some folks restore automobiles that are far older and have fun at it.

I enjoy seeing the photos and put in my 2 cents worth now and then, SR.fulltiming do not pay attention to the naysayers they might be envious.

Keep on going it is fun to see the progress.

navegator

Glad you are enjoying the photos, and thanks for the posts.

PastorCharlie wrote:
A friend once told me that whenever I was building something to try to have a little something for everyone...Fulltimin is doing a fine job. BIG GRIN. 2 Thumbs up.

Thanks for the thumbs up.

JoeH wrote:

Racklefratz wrote:

sundancer268 wrote:
Another point is no one has to follow this or any other forum if it doesn't meet their needs

"Follow" what, exactly? A topic about an RV which was obsolete at the time of the original post? C'mon, man.

A 1983 RV is close to 4 DECADES old today, which goes to worn out systems, worn out power and drive train, worn out chassis components, and obsolete electronics.

Anyone who thinks trying to "rehab" such a mechanical and technological train wreck (cost effectively) is either delusional, or smoking something the rest of us would like some of.

Time to put a fork in it - it's DONE.

I have "rehab"ed many old vehicles.... latest being a 95 year old Harley. Yes, it's old, worn out and built with obsolete components. That's what's great about it.

Obsolete is a relative term. In it's heyday, it was state of the art. Things just changed over time.

Thanks.

Racklefratz wrote:

sundancer268 wrote:
Another point is no one has to follow this or any other forum if it doesn't meet their needs

"Follow" what, exactly? A topic about an RV which was obsolete at the time of the original post? C'mon, man.

A 1983 RV is close to 4 DECADES old today, which goes to worn out systems, worn out power and drive train, worn out chassis components, and obsolete electronics.

Anyone who thinks trying to "rehab" such a mechanical and technological train wreck (cost effectively) is either delusional, or smoking something the rest of us would like some of.

Time to put a fork in it - it's DONE.

Well, IF I was to take this seriously, I suppose I could just have this towed to the junk yard, and then go jump off a high cliff.

Everything on this chassis is not completely worn out as you might suppose.

Personally, I like a vehicle with less electronics on it, rather than more.

Electronics on this consists of a dozen fuses, a few mechanical relays, and the GM High Energy Ignition for spark for the engine.

Less to go wrong, less to troubleshoot and generally less expensive to fix.

Then again, that's just me. A car guy probably wouldn't think twice about repairing/restoring a 1957 Chevy, which, when the 2022 vehicles come out, will be 65 years old.

Enjoy your newer vehicles, and I'll enjoy my older one.

LouLawrence wrote:
I can or cannot read and or post as I please. I don't need your help and I certainly don't need your permission!

You are correct but if you are contributing absolutely nothing to the thread then why even be here? Seriously? You just want to knock someone's work? Surely, you must have something better to do with your time. Just avoid the thread and move on, it's the decent thing to do.

LouLawrence, of course you dont and you are correct. You can do as you please, as will I. Best of luck to you and I hope we can be friends as I feel sure many other people here feel the same way.