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fulltimin
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Jun 17, 2017

Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

Started to look into some water damage in the kitchen of our 83 Pace Arrow. The more I looked, the more I found. I have some pics of the damage so far. Anyone interested in following a rebuild thread?

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    fulltimin
    Nomad
    May 13, 2020
    I broke out the Ryobi circular saw today, and proceeded to start cutting my newly bought plywood to width for the shelving.

    If you don't have a long level, you can also use the side of a piece of plywood as a guide for straight cuts on longer pieces. Even though I have the level, I decided to use a piece of plywood for my guide today.

    Why? Just because I could!



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    fulltimin
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    May 13, 2020
    sundancer268 wrote:
    fulltimin wrote:
    More storage, that the wife can reach, is a better thing.

    Short people problems, 101.

    Thanks.

    My Wife says she is Vertically Challenged.



    Sometimes vertically challenged is a good thing. Other times, being a vertical overachiever, can also be good thing.
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    sundancer268
    Explorer
    May 13, 2020
    fulltimin wrote:
    More storage, that the wife can reach, is a better thing.

    Short people problems, 101.

    Thanks.

    My Wife says she is Vertically Challenged.
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    fulltimin
    Nomad
    May 12, 2020
    Spreadsheet time, thanks to the Honey-Do list. That's ok, springtime can be a little busy around here.

    200 Kreg screws were $10.14, and the 2 sheets of plywood were $99.50, both with tax included.

    Adding that to the prior total of $9326.53, and we have a new grand total of $9436.37.
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    fulltimin
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    May 12, 2020
    First step was to measure up 12 inches from the bottom, then add another 1/2 inch so I knew exactly where the shelf would be.







    Then, I cheated. I wanted 7" from the top of the first shelf, to the bottom of the next shelf. In order not to screw up adding or subtracting, I moved the tape measure to the 10" mark, at the top of the first shelf, then moved up 7". That meant 10" low end, 17" high end. 7 inches empty space. Perfect. Then, add another 1/2" for the shelf itself.

    After one too many mistakes over the years, it's just easier this way.



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    fulltimin
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    May 12, 2020
    Second purchase was for 2 sheets of 1/2" x 4 x 8 plywood. I need most of that for the shelves. I did, however, forget to take a picture of them.

    I started laying out the markings on the end panels of the shelves, so I know where the shelves will go.

    I measured and marked them, and laid them side by side, just to make sure the shelves will be the same height on both ends.

    It's not fun to start putting things together, and suddenly find one end is an inch higher than the other. Been there, done that.



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    fulltimin
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    May 12, 2020
    I can't for the life of me figure out why a man would want 2 wives. I have enough trouble keeping up with one wife's Honey-Do list.

    I'd never keep up with the second wife's list. Lol.

    With that said, I did manage to get to Lowes today, and spend some money. Some towards the Honey-Do list, and some for the motor home.

    First was a pair of boxes of 1" Kreg screws. 200 in total screws. Turns out that the 1 and 1/4" length screws do not work well with 1/2" plywood.



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    fulltimin
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    May 12, 2020
    STBRetired wrote:
    Been thinking about your idea about the metal panels on the wall. Could not really come up with many things that we would stick up with magnets. We have only 3 things that we stick up with magnets: the wind up timer, the digital timer and oven meat thermometer, and a beer bottle opener. Other thinks that we tried were either too heavy and the hooks slid down over time, or they went flying when we hit the highway. Think one panel would be sufficient to hold the few things that would stay put during travel, as well as some magnets to hold up pictures and recipes. If you are going to use rattle-can paint, use some automotive lacquer that will be less likely to scratch, or have it powder coated. The business that powder coats our race car stuff is about 5 miles from my house and gives me a really good deal if I have it done in one of the popular colors (black, white, silver) that he is always doing. Just hits me up for the price of the powder if he can just add it to a batch that he is already doing. He can do gloss or dull finish, and the finish wears like iron. Only finish that has held up on my mower deck.

    Don't see anything wrong with having shelves behind the cooktop and prep area as long as they are not in danger of burning while cooking. You can never have enough storage space in your MH. You do not have the "basement" storage that many other MHs have (think DP or newer gassers) so you have to put storage wherever you can.

    Keep plugging away, enjoying watching the process. Don't always agree with some of your design choices, but, hey, it's YOUR motorhome.




    You just need stronger magnets, Capt'n. Ones that can barely be pulled off without a pair of vise grips. Ok, maybe that's a little overboard, but there are many different strengths of magnets on Amazon.

    The normal refrigerator magnets are not going to cut it. Strong enough to be tough to pull off will work.

    If we decide not to use a bunch of magnets, we can always put something else there, just need to drill holes.

    More storage is always a good thing. More storage, that the wife can reach, is a better thing.

    Short people problems, 101.

    Thanks.
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    STBRetired
    Explorer
    May 12, 2020
    Been thinking about your idea about the metal panels on the wall. Could not really come up with many things that we would stick up with magnets. We have only 3 things that we stick up with magnets: the wind up timer, the digital timer and oven meat thermometer, and a beer bottle opener. Other thinks that we tried were either too heavy and the hooks slid down over time, or they went flying when we hit the highway. Think one panel would be sufficient to hold the few things that would stay put during travel, as well as some magnets to hold up pictures and recipes. If you are going to use rattle-can paint, use some automotive lacquer that will be less likely to scratch, or have it powder coated. The business that powder coats our race car stuff is about 5 miles from my house and gives me a really good deal if I have it done in one of the popular colors (black, white, silver) that he is always doing. Just hits me up for the price of the powder if he can just add it to a batch that he is already doing. He can do gloss or dull finish, and the finish wears like iron. Only finish that has held up on my mower deck.

    Don't see anything wrong with having shelves behind the cooktop and prep area as long as they are not in danger of burning while cooking. You can never have enough storage space in your MH. You do not have the "basement" storage that many other MHs have (think DP or newer gassers) so you have to put storage wherever you can.

    Keep plugging away, enjoying watching the process. Don't always agree with some of your design choices, but, hey, it's YOUR motorhome.
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    btilfan
    Explorer
    May 12, 2020
    fulltimin wrote:
    This is the bath area wall, and the red lines indicate .... (drum roll please)!!!!!! .....

    Seriously considering putting a very thin piece of steel there, and probably painting it.

    Why? I think it would be a nice place to hang different things with magnets.

    I know sometimes people use a magnet to hold their kitchen knives, and so forth.

    I was thinking, having a large piece of steel there would allow all kinds of magnetic hooks to be stuck on there.

    I like that idea.. our last two Moho's had no metal anywhere for magnets. When I saw this it started me looking for a place to do the same.. not quite as big though.


    I like that idea.. our last two Moho's had no metal anywhere for magnets. When I saw this it started me looking for a place to do the same.. not quite as big though.

    Since it would not have to be a thick piece, it would not weigh very much. Just need to glue it to the wall to hold it into place.







    What do you think? Am I overlooking something here?

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