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pnichols
May 09, 2015Explorer II
pnichols wrote:
- The air conditioning appears to be via a central outlet instead of distributed ducts? However the heating may be distributed ducts.
- It looks like there be no, or only very limited, storage under at least one of the two dinette seats? I can't see the lower section of the second dinette seat, however.
- Where's the roof ladder for waxing of the roof, and emergency chaulking and/or various other unexpected repairs while out and about on a trip?
- Wonder what the ceiling height is in that portion of the coach not under the roof bubble?
- Is that a generartor exhaust pipe coming out the rear right under the bed? Probably that isn't good for low-noise napping on a hot afternoon when camping without hookups but needing to run the air conditioner.
- Some folks may prefer double galley sinks for low-water-use when rinsing and washing dishes while camping without hookups.
- Is there a seem all along the roof edge, or is that a rolled-over - and hence leakproof - roof to sidewall edge joint?
- Are those natural wood floors .... or engineered wood floors for superior long term dimensional stability in varying temperatures and humidities?
- I guess that there's a closed dry-sink/dry-toilet and wet-shower back there somewhere?
- What's the tank capacities?
- And .... like others have mentioned .... you better be fully dressed whenever you're in bed so you can get up out of it in the morning without an OOPS moment.
It doesn't strike me as being all that practical for general high-flexibility RV'ing use. I wouldn't take it off-pavement at all, except on very level, firm, and flat .... graded roads.
All that being said, it looks like a very cutesy rig!
4x4van wrote:
Alot of your post sounds a bit snarky to me, but maybe I just misunderstood your points. As for me, it is nice to see something different than the fluffy generic units that we in the US have become accustomed to and accept without complaint. Different layouts, different colors & materials; sure would be nice for US manufacturers to at least look around and start giving us some variety and options.
The colors and materials appear very nice in that unit, and a few other things stand out as well; the high back dinette seat (on one side, anyway), swivel cab seats (used to be common in US class Cs but no longer), the aerodynamics certainly look nice, and it appears to have lots of outside storage, both basement and above floor level.
Hmmm ... photos and specs of many recent Class C units manufactured outside of the U.S. seem to paint them, IMHO, as containing a lot of "fluff". The old phrase we used to describe cars seems to apply to some of those pretty boy highway queen rigs - "all show and no go".
The points I listed are merely some concerns and issues that I noticed from studying the photos. Here's how my list above stacks up with respect to our simple old fashioned generic American unit (2005 24 foot Itasca on an E450 chassis), that, IMHO provides more value than many recent rigs from other places:
- We have about the same ground clearance as the typical stock pickup truck. This means that our coach exit doorsill, sewer drain, and generator exhaust pipe are up high, too. The exit doorsill height is mitigated by an automatic step that tucks way up high when retracted.
- We have distributed heating and cooling with full digital controls.
- All of the volume under both of our two dinnette seats is available for storage.
- We have a roof ladder that has stood up under heavy use al long time for roof inspections and waxings.
- Our ceiling height is around 6' 8" everywhere, including the shower stall.
- Our generator is where it belongs in a Class C .... between the axles to help keep weight distribution optimum and to keep fumes, noise, and vibration away from the two queen beds.
- We have double galley sinks.
- Both of our side roof edges along their entire length are rolled down over the side panels 3-4 inches to eliminate any seam leaks there for the life of the motorhome.
- Flooring in an RV boils down to a matter of fluff versus practical preference. We would not want natural or engineered hardwood floors in an RV for a variety of reasons, but if one wants hardwood flooring in their RV it should be of the engineered kind for better stability in a mobile environment.
- I could not see the shower/toilet/sink layout in the photo. Our shower is separate from the toilet and the shower and toilet are separate from the rear sink.
- Our FW capacity is 45 gallons, our BW capacity is 39 gallons, our GW capacity is 29 gallons, our propane capacity is 18 gallons, and our fuel capacity is 55 gallons. The BW and GW tanks can combined by valves, if desired, for a total capacity of 68 gallons.
- The rear queen bed, shower, toilet, and sink can be curtained off to make a private area separate from the rest of the motorhome. The cabover queen bed can be curtained off for privacy, too. The motorhome came stock with this setup ... we did not have to make it that way.
We have over one ton of extra carrying capacity so we can load up the RV with impunity due to it being a small Class C, yet on an E450 chassis.
None of my comments above are meant to be snarky ... just meant to maybe help some folks better know where to look for comparative value in a U.S. sourced, or other, Class C. :)
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