AVIDA Esperance best selling Motorhome in Australia

pnichols wrote:
Speaking of E450 based Winnebago motohomes in water, here's a photo of our small Class C on a flooded river road here in California:

No you showed that before, would not consider that really going Off Road

pnichols wrote:
Robert,

You must have driven the wrong U.S. built motorhome.

Our small Itasca has been superb in practicalness, off-and-on pavement use, and value .... just not as pretty-boy-cutsey as some. Myself and plenty of other small U.S. built Class C owners have posted many times in these forums regarding what we like about our various rigs - most of them being Ford gassers. I won't get into one-upmanship postings here on the dozens of ways our small Class C motorhomes please us.

As I've also posted before, my BIL some time ago dumped his new-when-purchased Airstream Interstate Sprinter 3500 based motorhome due to unreliability issues in it's Mercedes chassis.

Here's a photo of our E450 boondock camping in a spot typical of where we go off-road:

No something a bit better than that and it was terrible, would not drive it far, very below par chassis

Speaking of E450 based Winnebago motohomes in water, here's a photo of our small Class C on a flooded river road here in California:

Robert,

You must have driven the wrong U.S. built motorhome.

Our small Itasca has been superb in practicalness, off-and-on pavement use, and value .... just not as pretty-boy-cutsey as some. Myself and plenty of other small U.S. built Class C owners have posted many times in these forums regarding what we like about our various rigs - most of them being Ford gassers. I won't get into one-upmanship postings here on the dozens of ways our small Class C motorhomes please us.

As I've also posted before, my BIL some time ago dumped his new-when-purchased Airstream Interstate Sprinter 3500 based motorhome due to unreliability issues in it's Mercedes chassis.

Here's a photo of our E450 boondock camping in a spot typical of where we go off-road:

pnichols wrote:

Naio wrote:
... and towards higher ground clearance and a more rugged build.

:h It sure doesnt' appear that way to me. i.e. Note the low-slung chrome engine exhaust pipe opening just inches above the ground!

Also:

- The air conditioning appears to be via a central outlet instead of distributed ducts? However the heating may be distributed ducts.

- It looks like there be no, or only very limited, storage under at least one of the two dinette seats? I can't see the lower section of the second dinette seat, however.

- Where's the roof ladder for waxing of the roof, and emergency chaulking and/or various other unexpected repairs while out and about on a trip?

- Wonder what the ceiling height is in that portion of the coach not under the roof bubble?

- Is that a generartor exhaust pipe coming out the rear right under the bed? Probably that isn't good for low-noise napping on a hot afternoon when camping without hookups but needing to run the air conditioner.

- Some folks may prefer double galley sinks for low-water-use when rinsing and washing dishes while camping without hookups.

- Is there a seem all along the roof edge, or is that a rolled-over - and hence leakproof - roof to sidewall edge joint?

- Are those natural wood floors .... or engineered wood floors for superior long term dimensional stability in varying temperatures and humidities?

- I guess that there's a closed dry-sink/dry-toilet and wet-shower back there somewhere?

- What's the tank capacities?

- And .... like others have mentioned .... you better be fully dressed whenever you're in bed so you can get up out of it in the morning without an OOPS moment.

It doesn't strike me as being all that practical for general high-flexibility RV'ing use. I wouldn't take it off-pavement at all, except on very level, firm, and flat .... graded
All that being said, it looks like a very cutesy rig! :)

Lot of errors there P Nichols, yes it does go off road, somewhat better than your terrible E450, The interior is deliberately designed that way as that is what customers want.
air conditioning is ducted, superior engineered floors, yes proper toilet and shower, good roof height, use of composites to prevent leaking. Everything an E450 does not have Yes it can actually go Off Road, as a pavement pounder a lot better than the E450. Remember I have driven an E450 Motorhome and it left a bad impression. The IVECO is much much better as a Motorhome to drive similar to the Sprinter :R
Esperance Off Road

Here is the link to that model

C7923SL

Capacities:

Fresh: 100L = 26.4gal
Grey: 100L = 26.4gal
Black: 19L = 5 gal

Naio wrote:
... and towards higher ground clearance and a more rugged build.

:h It sure doesnt' appear that way to me. i.e. Note the low-slung chrome engine exhaust pipe opening just inches above the ground!

Also:

- The air conditioning appears to be via a central outlet instead of distributed ducts? However the heating may be distributed ducts.

- It looks like there be no, or only very limited, storage under at least one of the two dinette seats? I can't see the lower section of the second dinette seat, however.

- Where's the roof ladder for waxing of the roof, and emergency chaulking and/or various other unexpected repairs while out and about on a trip?

- Wonder what the ceiling height is in that portion of the coach not under the roof bubble?

- Is that a generartor exhaust pipe coming out the rear right under the bed? Probably that isn't good for low-noise napping on a hot afternoon when camping without hookups but needing to run the air conditioner.

- Some folks may prefer double galley sinks for low-water-use when rinsing and washing dishes while camping without hookups.

- Is there a seem all along the roof edge, or is that a rolled-over - and hence leakproof - roof to sidewall edge joint?

- Are those natural wood floors .... or engineered wood floors for superior long term dimensional stability in varying temperatures and humidities?

- I guess that there's a closed dry-sink/dry-toilet and wet-shower back there somewhere?

- What's the tank capacities?

- And .... like others have mentioned .... you better be fully dressed whenever you're in bed so you can get up out of it in the morning without an OOPS moment.

It doesn't strike me as being all that practical for general high-flexibility RV'ing use. I wouldn't take it off-pavement at all, except on very level, firm, and flat .... graded roads.

All that being said, it looks like a very cutesy rig! :)

Naio wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

Ed_Gee wrote:
Is the lack of bedroom privacy a normal thing in your country?

Depends if you want curtains to cut off the open plan. The manufacturer has designed it from responses to questionnaires on what people want. Open plans like this are common in Australian homes

Even in homes with children? Or do you mean what we call 'apartments' in the US, for single people or a couple?

(Here, 'homes' usually means detached houses, with 3-5 bedrooms, intended for families with kids.)

I love the pictures, and I would buy that MH if it comes in a different color scheme. It's such a relief to get away from the woodgrain cabinets, froufrou valances, etc., that I see in so many US models, and towards higher ground clearance and a more rugged build.

No Apartments for couples, singles but I have seen Houses like this as well. Yes the Esperance comes in 13 Colours and I think 3 exterior colours

3 external wall colour schemes
13 external colour matched exclusive decal collections

RobertRyan wrote:

Ed_Gee wrote:
Is the lack of bedroom privacy a normal thing in your country?

Depends if you want curtains to cut off the open plan. The manufacturer has designed it from responses to questionnaires on what people want. Open plans like this are common in Australian homes

Even in homes with children? Or do you mean what we call 'apartments' in the US, for single people or a couple?

(Here, 'homes' usually means detached houses, with 3-5 bedrooms, intended for families with kids.)

I love the pictures, and I would buy that MH if it comes in a different color scheme. It's such a relief to get away from the woodgrain cabinets, froufrou valances, etc., that I see in so many US models, and towards higher ground clearance and a more rugged build.

1492 wrote:
Very nice. Has the feel of a roomy studio layout. Not an issue for me that there isn't a separation with the bedroom.

Pretty well sums up buyers attitudes here