Thanks Gene, also great info. It's so nice to be able to do my homework on this before we buy. When we got our Class A, just loved it, knew nothing about it and was sorry we didnt' do our homework. It was a Champion and orphaned, so couldn't get any help when another company in Canada took it over. The most problems we've had are the electrical gremlins, can't seem to cure them. BUT, the cummings diesel is great, I think it will run forever, have had very little mantenance on it, I wish we could get one in a small unit. We are still leaning toward the Trail lite, especially comparing prices. Really like the back door, visibility is a big concern for hubby. What did anyone pay for theirs? The place here has them for over $50,000, but haven't even tried to bargain yet.